RE: Man's morality
November 28, 2013 at 9:38 am
(This post was last modified: November 28, 2013 at 9:49 am by Angrboda.)
(November 28, 2013 at 5:17 am)genkaus Wrote:(November 27, 2013 at 10:53 am)Drich Wrote: Which differs from what I've said how? God's standard of "what we ought to do" and our own standard of "what we ought to do" is completely different.
What we say we 'ought to do' is based completely on works.
What God says, is none of our works will ever be enough, so we should seek redemption.
Thus further demonstrating the irrational and self-contradictory nature of your so-called god's morality. If the list of ought-nots is not going to be sufficient in the first place, then what's the point in making such a list? That's like giving the students a test and then declaring that they won't pass no matter what their score is.
Kant makes some good points about the relationship between pragmatism of moral duties and the morality of those duties. In particular, he argues that a duty which is incapable of being fulfilled is not a duty at all, moral or otherwise, that a duty must be capable of being realized to invoke an ought. God's morality, according to that specific phase of Kant's ethics, then doesn't qualify as moral at all. And I think he's right. We don't fault a lioness for eating a human being, for she cannot possibly be conscious of any imperative not to do so, or at least would not, in her natural state, be cognizant of such. She has no duty to be more "moral" and not eat a human, and to claim that she has "sinned" by not living up to our standards of goodness is not only wrong, it is evil itself. To punish the lioness for not being more ethical is as absurd as to claim that we "fall short" of god's standard; the standard does not apply unless you first equivocate on multiple things, including its relevance as a duty. We have no prima facie duty to god on account of him having such standards, such standards aren't moral, nor do we have any justification of any duty toward god based on his standards alone. This simply doesn't work; his standards, and our duty to them, can only be justified elsewhere and elsewise, thus the story of Job, which, for all its appeal, portrays a fascist and ethically bankrupt monster of a god.
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