RE: Man's morality
November 30, 2013 at 2:44 pm
(This post was last modified: November 30, 2013 at 2:47 pm by Drich.)
(November 30, 2013 at 1:56 pm)apophenia Wrote:Oh, but it is..(November 30, 2013 at 1:24 pm)Drich Wrote: This is a perfect example of the Judgement day defense strageity i was speaking of in the above post!
No, it is not. It has nothing to do with whether or not God is or isn't moral, and everything to do with the concept of duty. Kant applied the same framework without alteration to societies and governments later on in his career. Claiming that something is a perfect example of something else, when you obviously don't even understand it as an example to begin with, just makes you look like an idiot. (And this aspect of Kant's ethics has been extensively written about in the literature; if you think you are right, prove it with a citation. I have Oppy and Trakakis' 1300 page history of western philosophy of religion waiting to show otherwise.)
you state Kan't clearly says: "he argues that a duty which is incapable of being fulfilled is not a duty at all, moral or otherwise, that a duty must be capable of being realized to invoke an ought. God's morality, according to that specific phase of Kant's ethics, then doesn't qualify as moral at all."
Again A judgement day defense strageity starts by somehow invalidating God's Righteousness, and substitute your own self righteousness/morality for it. Then issue the challenge to convict the 'moral being' based on the defining qualities of your own personal version of righteousness/morality.
Kan't does this in your opening line. "A duty incapable of being fulfilled is not a duty at all." Clearly for you, This invalidates God's Righteousness. Then he substitutes his own morality for God's or rather you do by proxy with the lion analogy. Then you issue a challenge to convict with the rest of your post.
Again this is a perfect example of a judgement day defense strageity. No amount of wishing want or calling me 4th grader will ever change that.
Just an observation: For taking the name 'apophenia' one would assume you would at least be able to identify basic patterns or connections as they presented themselves.. Or does you inablity to make these simple connections mean this gift not apply when the 'data' is not meaningless?

(November 30, 2013 at 2:40 pm)houseofcantor Wrote:(November 30, 2013 at 2:23 pm)Drich Wrote: and if the toils of your hands and heart are found to be morally objectionable by other people?
You know the answer to that.
actually I don't. That is why I asked.
(November 30, 2013 at 2:18 pm)max-greece Wrote:How do you know I was not an Atheist if your not appealing to this fallacy?Quote:When I was an Atheist, I used my 'morality' as a judgement day defense strageity. In that if their was a God, and if I were a moral person (If my right doings out weighed my wrongs.) to condemn me to Hell would therefore make God immoral.
Not to pull a no true Scotsman but if that was your thinking then you really weren't ever an atheist.
An Atheist doesn't work out a defence strategy to deal with a non-existent God.