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God says “Love me or die”
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RE: God says “Love me or die”
(February 13, 2010 at 9:58 pm)Zen Badger Wrote:
(February 13, 2010 at 5:44 am)fr0d0 Wrote: You forgot to include the nature of God to keep belief in him a choice.
And when we exercise our free will and choose not to believe in him we are condemmed for eternity.
Uh, no. I think I can answer honestly here in the subject.

Free will is the power to make whatever decisions in life you wish to make, and take responsibility for them because they were your decisions. God would never condemn anyone to Hell. Whether you 'go to Hell'(which is a state of mind, btw)or not is entirely up to you.

(February 13, 2010 at 5:44 am)fr0d0 Wrote:
Quote: There has never been validatable proof for this very reason. If miracles can be observed they can only be verified by the individual and believers and never outside that. It's frustrating for you but that's the truth of it.

So god will only manifest his miracles to those who already believe, Thinking

For an entity that you have previously claimed is undefinable you seem to know

an awful lot about his motivations.

It is not that God only manifests Himself to those who believe, it is that only those who believe will understand and recognize the ways in which he manifests Himself.

And God is defineable only in the sense that certain trais of Him are self-evident, i.e.- He loves us, because He gave us life.
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God says “Love me or die” - by Mr Camel - February 12, 2010 at 4:34 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by BioLogos - February 12, 2010 at 4:53 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Mr Camel - February 12, 2010 at 5:03 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 5:20 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 5:43 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 12, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 13, 2010 at 12:22 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by BioLogos - February 12, 2010 at 5:30 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Mr Camel - February 12, 2010 at 6:00 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 6:07 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by BioLogos - February 12, 2010 at 6:36 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Mr Camel - February 12, 2010 at 6:26 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 6:39 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 6:36 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Mr Camel - February 12, 2010 at 6:51 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 6:55 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Autumnlicious - February 12, 2010 at 7:58 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by BioLogos - February 12, 2010 at 8:02 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 8:02 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 8:04 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 8:10 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 8:25 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 8:31 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 8:37 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 8:44 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 8:46 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 9:02 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 9:18 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 9:50 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 11:01 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2010 at 5:44 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Purple Rabbit - February 13, 2010 at 7:19 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 13, 2010 at 2:35 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 9:58 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 13, 2010 at 10:11 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 10:33 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 9:22 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 9:37 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 11:19 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 12, 2010 at 11:29 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 11:32 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 12, 2010 at 11:48 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 13, 2010 at 12:52 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2010 at 2:32 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2010 at 4:37 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 10:21 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 13, 2010 at 10:25 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 10:37 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 13, 2010 at 10:35 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 10:45 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 13, 2010 at 10:38 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:11 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 12:15 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:36 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 13, 2010 at 10:53 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:05 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 12:11 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:31 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 12:35 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:52 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 12:40 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:58 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 12:57 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 1:06 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 1:00 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 1:26 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 1:10 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 14, 2010 at 10:07 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 1:38 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 7:21 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by downbeatplumb - February 14, 2010 at 6:17 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Welsh cake - February 14, 2010 at 11:33 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 16, 2010 at 9:02 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 16, 2010 at 10:22 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 16, 2010 at 2:05 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 16, 2010 at 2:40 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Autumnlicious - February 16, 2010 at 7:13 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by downbeatplumb - February 16, 2010 at 3:16 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 16, 2010 at 4:47 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Welsh cake - February 16, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 17, 2010 at 12:17 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 17, 2010 at 4:35 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 17, 2010 at 6:05 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 17, 2010 at 6:12 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 17, 2010 at 6:25 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 17, 2010 at 6:52 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 17, 2010 at 7:01 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 17, 2010 at 6:58 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 17, 2010 at 7:20 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 17, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 17, 2010 at 8:47 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 17, 2010 at 1:34 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 11:05 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 18, 2010 at 5:43 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 19, 2010 at 3:31 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 19, 2010 at 4:35 am
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RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 19, 2010 at 10:32 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2010 at 1:20 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 19, 2010 at 10:57 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 19, 2010 at 12:21 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 19, 2010 at 5:37 pm
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RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 21, 2010 at 2:51 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 22, 2010 at 2:22 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 22, 2010 at 2:29 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 2:42 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 4:09 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 4:35 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 4:54 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 22, 2010 at 3:04 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 4:08 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 5:07 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 5:28 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 5:57 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 6:33 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Darwinian - February 22, 2010 at 9:09 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 10:18 am
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