And Hells come back to haunt me

[StrongWaters]

Christ came for the wicked, not the righteous. Ears open by faith. Ears are seeds of grain. The seed is God's part and it is here. Soil is needed.

That didn't answer the question. A clear and unambiguous message would be far better than the barely-coherent mess you get in many ancient religious texts. At the least, it would avoid the endless battles over interpretation that split devout religious people into tens of thousands of different denominations, sometimes over fairly minor details.

I went back four pages and could not find the question. Ask again and I would be glad to answer with no scripture this time.

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Christ came for the wicked, not the righteous. Ears open by faith. Ears are seeds of grain. The seed is God's part and it is here. Soil is needed.

That's a dishonest dodge! You only become classified as wicked or righteous upon being measured against god's rules. Without god's rules being conveyed, you can't be either.

Do you consider a severely mentally retarded person to be wicked or righteous?

I am not the judge. I have my own ideas, but wickedness comes in many forms. Self-righteousness is wickedness. Many Atheists and Christians alike are self-righteous. You might even call me self-righteous, but this would be inaccurate. I am a sinner just like everyone on Earth. The defining factor is not our own ability to be Savior, but rather, on our faith in the only ONE who is. God sees us as righteous and justified if He sees His son in us. What is the cornerstone of that image? Giving.

I would challenge you to read the replies of this thread here: http://atheistforums.org/thread-22522.html

When you are finished, go back and read the OP itself. You may be surprised in what it says about your own worth to God.

Gospel of Philip

When the pearl is cast down into the mud, it becomes greatly despised, nor if it is anointed with balsam oil will it become more precious. But it always has value in the eyes of its owner. Compare the Sons of God: wherever they may be, they still have value in the eyes of their Father.

If I can wake you up a bit, you will see the time on the clock and remember who you are. It takes an unbalanced force to shake you a bit. The same was done for me years ago.

God Bless