(December 10, 2013 at 4:17 pm)Drich Wrote: without a common understanding of both view point nothing will be accomplished. i did not say you had to agree, only that you completely understand what you are attempting to intellegently discuss. Appearently in your personal version of a intellegent discussion knoweledge of the topic is frown upon.
This isn't really a response... just a veiled insult.
Quote:How did you come to this conclusion?
Because there is no evidence. Please... present it if you have such. We've all been waiting for thousands of years.
Quote:This is exactly why i was looking for the defination of God's Righteousness/Morality from you.
I cannot define something that doesn't exist. I cannot tell you what the easter bunny is thinking either. Or what unicorns taste like.
Quote:You still don't seem to understand the basic division between Man's morality and God's righteousness otherwise you would not have lead with this arguement.
Actually I do. Man's morality depends widely on the specific culture. There are very few universal morals. I think murder in cold blood is probably frowned upon in all cultures. Going back as far as Mesopotamian culture we find evidence that man has had laws about murder. However, what makes it murder, just, or unjust varies. If someone raped my daughter and then gave me 30 pieces of silver in attempt to buy her... I'd kill them. And in our culture there would be a strong case for my defense as a father emotionally disturbed by his child's assault. In Archaic Jew land I would have been in the wrong as the rapist did what was right to make up for the rape. And I'd probably be stoned to death for going against God's law.
So morality varies by culture. GOD... at this point... is an invention of man. No such being has ever been proven to exist. So any attributes of this character are simply a work of fiction and have no bearing on real world moral considerations.
Quote:No. God's righteousness is not based on what one does.
It isn't based on anything. It's fiction.
Quote:Meaning all acts are essentually netural. There are no inhearently good acts or bad acts.. It all has to do with why a person does what He does, not the act itself.
Not so. Is it ok to have sex with a child if the child goes willingly? Our culture says no.
Quote:Even Now at the age of 13 Jews consider Childhood to be over.
Talk to some American Jews. They honor the tradition but no Jewish mother is sending her 13 year old boy out in the wilderness.
