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God says “Love me or die”
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RE: God says “Love me or die”
(February 14, 2010 at 11:33 am)Welsh cake Wrote: Watson, can you name just one event in the Bible where you find the character of God to be immoral?

Can you acknowledge just one time when you think this supposedly higher intelligence couldn't have found a better solution to the problem in his supposedly infinite mind rather than mass murder or eternal torture in Hell?

It's futile trying to defend such a monster and then portray him as benevolent. I should know. I tried to do just that. Back when I was a fundamental Christian there were acts committed and atrocities that even I found hard to swallow, like in Kings, when he sent two bears to kill children just for making fun of Elisha's bald head. I daren't speak of these passages whenever boasting from my soap-box of his apparent 'cosmic loving nature' because they were simply inexcusable – my god concept was one that advocated child murder, infanticide and child abuse.
No, there is no moment in the Bible where God is as evil or immoral. There could, perhaps, be moments where God is portrayed in that sense and so comes away from a particular story looking quite nasty, but upon closer inspection, and with the right eye, there is a much more simple answer to be given.

I've yet to read that story, or passage, so I can't comment on what it might mean. Not yet. But I wont shy away from it once I get there, because I know there are some things that look very hard to swallow- at first glance.

Quote:Now onto this God's 'Gift of Life', I don't know about you, but I was conceived by my mother, ask my parents and they can assure you that no mafia boss in the sky gave me anything.
Oh, come on, you know what I mean. Your parents conceived you, gave birth to you, but it is because of God that you weren't born into a complete blank void.

Quote:Are you trying to argue that not all babies are born equally? That some are biological shells and others have an immortal soul courtesy of magic man?
...No? I don't see where I ever indicated this at all, either.

Quote:nope god dose not like Suicide.... but he loves him some sacrifices... animals ... children.... A little tabasco and a bud light and it's a party... and a good stoning... now thats entertainment... The more I think about it gods LOVE sounds less like love and more like CONTEMPT.

I do't recall ever saying God liked stonings or sacrifices? Excuse me? I don't know about you but the more I look around and see how much of a life we've been given and see all the amazing, wonderful things there are to connect to and explore, I get the idea that someone must have loved us alot to give all of this to us.
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God says “Love me or die” - by Mr Camel - February 12, 2010 at 4:34 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by BioLogos - February 12, 2010 at 4:53 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Mr Camel - February 12, 2010 at 5:03 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 5:20 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 5:43 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 12, 2010 at 11:08 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 13, 2010 at 12:22 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by BioLogos - February 12, 2010 at 5:30 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Mr Camel - February 12, 2010 at 6:00 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 6:07 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by BioLogos - February 12, 2010 at 6:36 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Mr Camel - February 12, 2010 at 6:26 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 6:39 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 6:36 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Mr Camel - February 12, 2010 at 6:51 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 6:55 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Autumnlicious - February 12, 2010 at 7:58 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by BioLogos - February 12, 2010 at 8:02 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 8:02 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 8:04 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 8:10 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 8:25 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 8:31 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 8:37 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 8:44 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 8:46 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 9:02 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 9:18 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 12, 2010 at 9:50 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 11:01 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2010 at 5:44 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Purple Rabbit - February 13, 2010 at 7:19 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 13, 2010 at 2:35 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 9:58 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 13, 2010 at 10:11 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 10:33 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 9:22 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 12, 2010 at 9:37 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 11:19 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 12, 2010 at 11:29 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 12, 2010 at 11:32 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 12, 2010 at 11:48 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 13, 2010 at 12:52 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2010 at 2:32 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 13, 2010 at 4:37 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 10:21 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 13, 2010 at 10:25 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 10:37 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 13, 2010 at 10:35 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 13, 2010 at 10:45 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 13, 2010 at 10:38 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:11 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 12:15 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:36 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 13, 2010 at 10:53 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:05 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 12:11 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:31 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 12:35 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:52 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 12:40 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 12:58 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 12:57 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 1:06 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 1:00 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 1:26 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 1:10 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 14, 2010 at 10:07 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 14, 2010 at 1:38 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 14, 2010 at 7:21 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by downbeatplumb - February 14, 2010 at 6:17 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Welsh cake - February 14, 2010 at 11:33 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 16, 2010 at 9:02 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 16, 2010 at 10:22 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Watson - February 16, 2010 at 2:05 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 16, 2010 at 2:40 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Autumnlicious - February 16, 2010 at 7:13 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by downbeatplumb - February 16, 2010 at 3:16 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 16, 2010 at 4:47 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Welsh cake - February 16, 2010 at 5:06 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 17, 2010 at 12:17 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 17, 2010 at 4:35 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 17, 2010 at 6:05 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 17, 2010 at 6:12 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 17, 2010 at 6:25 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 17, 2010 at 6:52 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 17, 2010 at 7:01 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 17, 2010 at 6:58 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 17, 2010 at 7:20 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 17, 2010 at 12:30 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 17, 2010 at 8:47 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 17, 2010 at 1:34 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 18, 2010 at 11:05 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 18, 2010 at 5:43 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 19, 2010 at 3:31 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 19, 2010 at 4:35 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Tiberius - February 19, 2010 at 10:49 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 19, 2010 at 10:32 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Zen Badger - February 21, 2010 at 1:20 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 19, 2010 at 10:57 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 19, 2010 at 12:21 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tavarish - February 19, 2010 at 5:37 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Rhizomorph13 - February 19, 2010 at 5:40 pm
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 21, 2010 at 2:51 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Xyster - February 22, 2010 at 2:22 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 22, 2010 at 2:29 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 2:42 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 4:09 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 4:35 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 4:54 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by tackattack - February 22, 2010 at 3:04 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 4:08 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 5:07 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 5:28 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Violet - February 22, 2010 at 5:57 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 6:33 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by Darwinian - February 22, 2010 at 9:09 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by fr0d0 - February 22, 2010 at 10:18 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by theVOID - February 22, 2010 at 10:24 am
RE: God says “Love me or die” - by downbeatplumb - February 23, 2010 at 3:22 pm

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