RE: Cardinal Dolan: The Catholic church isn't anti-gay
December 14, 2013 at 1:46 pm
(This post was last modified: December 14, 2013 at 1:47 pm by max-greece.)
(December 13, 2013 at 1:41 pm)ronedee Wrote: It has nothing to do with hating gays.
Just like slavery had nothing to do with hating Black people.
Quote:The Catholic church won't accept gay marriage because they can't procreate.
A lot of heterosexual marriages fail to yield children - so? The church doesn't seem to have a problem with them.
Quote:According to the church, its [not] a sin to be gay. It's a sin to [act] gay.
So no camping it up in church then. What does act gay mean exactly?
Quote:It's not natural. PERIOD
Actually it is. SEMICOLON (as valid as period in the discussion).
Quote:And teaching our children that it is?
Encourages tolerance, acceptance and understanding
Quote:Case-in-point: I have 2 friends that watched their daughters struggle in their adolescense with "gay feelings". And because they had gay family members, the teens were "nudged". Both teens have since gone back to their natural genders, and are dating men. Unfortunately one of them had reconstructive surgery.
Are you talking about trans-gender? Its not clear from what you have written which implied lesbian (which doesn't require surgery). Yes - some people have gay experiences only to go on to live heterosexually, some are bisexual throughout their lives and some are and remain Lesbian. "Nudging" from an external source wouldn't have any effect were the feelings not there in the first place.
Quote:This is happening more and more in our society! Young people are being "pushed" into major decisions, for what might "have been" just a bump in the road! Its wrong!
Erm....no. What is happening more and more is that LBGT people no longer have to hide what they are to live a life pretending to be heterosexual. If its a "bump in the road" then they will revert to type whatever the environment. A person's sexual or gender orientation is not determined externally.
Quote:I've mentioned here that I have a gay daughter. We let her decide her direction on her own. Unfortunately, there was no shortage of other gays pushing her in that direction! I, and my wife bit our tongues through all of it. out of respect and love. And we are glad that she is happy now. And we love each other dearly.... despite our differences theoloically.
See above.
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