Gay marriage

[JohnCrichton72]

"Marriage is a right" I totally agree, it is a religious right performed by a religious community in accordance with their interpretation of their doctrine.

To say everyone has a right to be married in accordance with a specific interpretation of a religious doctrine, irrespective of whether they meet the criteria denies that sects right to freedom of religion.

You do understand, that marriage is, infact, a sociopolitical invention (and independent religion), yes? Oh good. I'm glad that we agree.

That commonfolk are being wed, on a religiohistorical basis, is hilarious

Do I understand that marriage is independent religion......

I assume you mean that marriage is/can be exist independently from religion and is a socio-political invention, I think you are contradicting yourself.

It is instinctual for some animals to form a union and choose one mate for life devoid of any higher level communication capability. Swans, turtle doves, wolves ect.

I do not deny that political governance (or even primitive social hierarchy) and culture recognises and influences the union and that the instinctive process has been altered by the socio-political context and called marriage.

The main socio-political influence was religion, so marriage couldn't be a socio-political-religious invention and exist independently from religion.

I am honestly still on the fence, not that it's like I have a say in the matter anyway.

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So, Aractus, am I getting this right? You're saying "married" couples, as in couples that are recognized by the church as "married" (not united civilly) should get preferential treatment in adoption cases? And who is to decide which "married" couple that might be? What if someone wants her lesbian aunt to adopt her baby, but her parents want it?

Please cite your peer-reviewed psychological studies. I'm all ears.

He didn't say which church, what I don't understand is why homosexuals don't just form their own sect of Christianity. Then they could legally get married, right?

If enough people filled in their census forms describing themselves as the new branch of Christianity it becomes an officially recognised religion does it not?