RE: The universe appears "old", but it is still less than 10,000 years old
December 28, 2013 at 12:23 am
(This post was last modified: December 28, 2013 at 12:26 am by orogenicman.)
(December 27, 2013 at 8:23 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:(December 26, 2013 at 4:47 pm)orogenicman Wrote: The alternative (which you apparently refuse to do) is to do something about your functional illiteracy.
…says the guy who has had an embarrassing amount of difficulty understanding the basic concepts contained within everyone’s responses to him.
If by "embarrassing amount of difficulty understanding basic concepts" you mean that I don't understand how anyone can pretend to get a 10,000 year old universe from unambiguous evidence of a 13.7 billion year old universe, then your are right. I do have difficultly accepting such a delusion. The only thing I find embarrassing is the fact that there are still people in the world who believe in 10,000 year old universes, expanding Earths, hollow Earths, and flat Earths.
orogenicman Wrote:Since that isn't going to happen, you should see a shrink to deal with your delusions.
warped one Wrote:This is what people always say when they just got destroyed in a debate.
Nope. This is what people always say when encountering someone as willfully ignorant as you.
orogenicman Wrote:In the mean time, have you ever wondered why the only people who believe the book of genesis is anything but a work of mythology are evangelical Christians? Ever wonder why the people who wrote it (The Jews) don't see it like you do?
warped one Wrote:You can’t even get this right I see. According to Freundel of Contemporary Orthodox Judaism's response to modernity many Orthodox Jewish thinkers still accept a literal six day creation (also supported by Wikipedia’s article on Young-Earth Creationism). Secondly, many Muslims and Reformed Christians and nearly all Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses also accept a literal interpretation of Genesis. How many people believe something to be true is ultimately irrelevant but I just wanted to ensure that you had your facts straight since you usually do not.
Well, you see. unlike you, I don't have to refer to "Freundel of Contemporary Orthodox Judaism's response to modernity" since, having been married to a Jew, I know first hand that most modern Jews are not orthodox. Orthodox Jews are a minority sect within the Jewish faith just as fundamental Christians like you are a minority in the Christian faith. For instance, according to a 1990 nationwide survey, 7 percent of American Jews are Orthodox. And like you and your fundy brothers and sister, they got Genesis wrong as well.
http://www.religionfacts.com/judaism/denominations.htm
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-- Samuel "Mark Twain" Clemens
"I think that in the discussion of natural problems we ought to begin not with the scriptures, but with experiments, demonstrations, and observations".
- Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
"In short, Meyer has shown that his first disastrous book was not a fluke: he is capable of going into any field in which he has no training or research experience and botching it just as badly as he did molecular biology. As I've written before, if you are a complete amateur and don't understand a subject, don't demonstrate the Dunning-Kruger effect by writing a book about it and proving your ignorance to everyone else! "
- Dr. Donald Prothero