Fifty Questions That Christians Can't Answer

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What that your refusal to accept life should not result in death? Sounds like twisted logic to me

WTF are you talking about? The original point was that it would not make sense for Jesus to issue forth a directive to slay non-believers if they are already dead spiritually as you suggest it means. Again, in a literal sense, that would be like me telling someone to go and kill a dead person. Are we in circles on this one?

I'm talking about the exact point of the text. The quote was from a king to slay people who didn't agree with him. The 'believers' or those who believed but didn't act upon their beliefs and were then spiritually dead though choice. I have no idea how you reached your conclusion... it just isn't ever suggested.

Your theology is showing it's paucity again. That God would create everything less perfect than himself is perfectly consistent. God did not seek to create his equal.. another God. Do you know anything God like in this existence? Do you think that Christianity ever proposes multiples of the already tripartate Godhead?

With my perfection I decide to, I don't know, bake a cake. Well, let's say this cake fails terribly and ends up being a charred brick. Well, I screwed up, right? That means that I must not be perfect! Again, that concept is one of the most simplistic concepts to grasp. If I were perfect, then everything I do should, in turn, be perfect. If it is not, then I'm not perfect. It;sa as simple as that.

Unless you intended to make something imperfect. You are all powerful and only you can know what would be perfect to you. In our minds we cannot judge what is perfect and what isn't.

As to your second sentence about god's imperfect consistency, well, no argument here. That has, as I have seen it, been one of the few constant in the christian religion, consistency of imperfection.

Because you in your more perfect guise of God would do it differently right? You the atheist realist who can face up to this mess we exist in with such a brave face. See me, as Christian, can understand how this reality is actually beautiful in all of that. I don't need to get manically depressed about it because I can understand that this is how reality works - it just is, and God as creator would have made it like this with the natural laws in place. But forgive me for speaking in your superior presence of knowledge of a system that would work better than this reality. Tell you what - you're welcome to your fantasy.. I'll take what I've got thanks

Do I know anything god-like in existence? No, not even god as he is non-existent. I think that's the crux of why we are here in this forum to begin with. Your last question is not even relevant to this issue.

Then you contradict yourself.

Luke 17:21 the kingdom of God is within you

Within you. Are you earth? I think you know what this one is referencing and it is not that heaven is primarily a place on earth.

It is referencing precisely my point. Heaven as a concept is achievable on earth in this life. You really stretch credulity with your extreme reductionism.

Mathew 6:10 on earth as it is in heaven

....as it is in..... You know, another completely different place.

From earth - yeah - heaven - made the same *somehow*.

Heaven yes is a reference to perfection with God... the fullness of which might only be possible apart from potential error in this life. Still living this life fully involves living right. No where is that nailed more so that in the Christian message.

Potential error? Actually, this is going off the original topic of god's imperfection, I digress.

Yes - your illogical obsession that everything should be perfect

You would be a mindless drone following such oppression. I agree. However this is nothing like the subject you're trying to address. God offers unconditional love and all you have to do is stop refusing it to obtain the benefits of life. Quite the opposite to numbing your mind to senseless pain and suffering, this is the real McCoy. This isn't running away and hiding - this is facing it full on.

Benefits? What benefits? Real McCoy? As opposed to what I can see, touch, hear, smell and taste? Really?

No - what you touch, hear, smell, see and taste are what I'm talking about, in addition to thinking of course.

The subject in hand - the inherent nature of human beings is dealt with in Genesis. No part of the bible is literal at all... and I wasn't aware I was addressing a literalist. I do apologise. But please don't feel obliged to reply on my behalf.

Well, most christians do present the bible as the literal word of god, so I tend to debate it literally. It seems to me that when a christian finally has an epiphany that something about the bible does not make sense, they tend to conveniently call it a metaphor, but only when it suits their argument because they can't support it logically. So, yes, I am a "literalist". I already had you pegged as a metaphorist. lol

LOL @ 'most'. So what's that a claim to authority? Well that's a nice reason to dodge further questioning and also a concluding ad hominem to add to your collection here. You think a literalist interpretation is the reality of Christian theology throughout the ages? How deluded that appears against all evidence to the contrary. Convenient for you, I must admit. No need to face real logic then is there? I can support my whole argument logically and endeavour to do so. Your regurgitation of worn rhetoric tinged with the usual misplaced vitriol is, on the other hand, dull.