(January 3, 2014 at 10:11 am)Aractus Wrote:(January 3, 2014 at 9:02 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Your deflections make it abundantly clear that you don't have evidence for the resurrection and that you fear the implications that arise from Jesus being a mere man.Again, that's off-topic. There is evidence - Gospel evidence. Beyond that, yes, there is no further evidence (except of course for the sudden spread of the early Christian church itself, and if Jesus didn't appear to them then we don't know what motivated them after he had died). Sceptical scholars would say the evidence is insufficient (but they'll still agree that he was baptized and that he called disciples and died on a cross). You're not telling me anything I don't know, and you won't even discuss the on-topic discussion ... the evidence that Christ existed; not the evidence for each of the individual things he did or said.
But hey bro, I understand. It's a scary place to go.
Since you didn't create the thread you don't get to decide if I'm on topic or not. But as has been explained to you before, the gospels are not evidence. They might meet your low standards but ours are a bit higher.
And if the spread of the church is evidence does that mean that the spread of Mormonism means that Joe Smith really did read two magical gold plates in a hat?
Thought not.
And the reason I'm not discussing the evidence for Jc is because it's been done to death. None of the "evidence" is contemporary or convincing and yet you offer it up time after time despite us rejecting it every time.
So I prefer to examine the more important topic. Now I'm happy to start a thread on the subject but are you willing to defend jesus's divinity there?
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.