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Gay marriage
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RE: Gay marriage
(January 4, 2014 at 1:50 pm)Lek Wrote: I don't think you've read my previous posts. I said we should keep the government out of marriage. Marriage should be a private thing. Anyone who wants to be married could be married in a church or whatever way they deem appropriate. This is true for straights, gays or whomever. Civil unions would simply be a way to give equal rights under the law, which is a legitimate function of government.

And I would be fine with that, except that this was never a suggestion you heard Christians offer until it became clear that you would have to share the 'institution' with same-sex couples. Not that I am impugning your motives specifically, but the sentiment in general, coming from Christians in general, stinks of "I can't have it to myself, so it would be best if nobody has it", especially when it's obvious to everybody that marriage is not going to be free of the purview of government anytime soon. It's sneaking in 'separate but equal' under the vague and by no means certain promise that equality can finally exist if, maybe sometime in the next couple of decades, government decides to relinquish jurisdiction over marriage. To offer civil unions that way would essentially be making a promise you know you can't keep now and wouldn't even have to worry about keeping for a very long time, if ever.

I was once on the other side of this debate. I know how they think.
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Gay marriage - by JohnCrichton72 - December 15, 2013 at 10:23 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Silver - December 15, 2013 at 10:25 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Polaris - December 15, 2013 at 10:28 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Minimalist - December 15, 2013 at 10:48 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - December 15, 2013 at 11:03 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - December 15, 2013 at 11:05 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Minimalist - December 16, 2013 at 2:19 am
RE: Gay marriage - by TaraJo - December 15, 2013 at 11:20 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 3, 2014 at 10:33 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Esquilax - January 3, 2014 at 11:36 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 3, 2014 at 11:50 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - January 4, 2014 at 12:51 am
RE: Gay marriage - by c172 - December 15, 2013 at 11:50 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Clueless Morgan - December 16, 2013 at 12:00 am
Re: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - December 16, 2013 at 6:33 am
RE: Gay marriage - by JohnCrichton72 - December 16, 2013 at 7:18 am
RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - December 17, 2013 at 7:48 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Violet - December 18, 2013 at 5:19 am
RE: Gay marriage - by JohnCrichton72 - December 19, 2013 at 5:58 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Violet - December 19, 2013 at 5:05 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - December 19, 2013 at 10:53 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Zen Badger - December 16, 2013 at 7:53 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Doubting Thomas - December 16, 2013 at 2:14 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lion IRC - December 17, 2013 at 5:56 am
RE: Gay marriage - by KichigaiNeko - December 17, 2013 at 8:39 am
RE: Gay marriage - by TaraJo - December 17, 2013 at 10:40 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Doubting Thomas - December 17, 2013 at 1:35 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - December 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - December 19, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Esquilax - December 19, 2013 at 10:51 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Chas - December 19, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - December 20, 2013 at 5:52 am
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 4, 2014 at 3:00 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Whateverist - December 17, 2013 at 11:52 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Minimalist - December 17, 2013 at 12:57 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - December 17, 2013 at 1:45 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - December 19, 2013 at 3:34 am
RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - December 19, 2013 at 3:57 am
RE: Gay marriage - by rexbeccarox - December 19, 2013 at 5:20 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - December 19, 2013 at 9:13 am
RE: Gay marriage - by rexbeccarox - December 19, 2013 at 6:18 am
RE: Gay marriage - by JohnCrichton72 - December 19, 2013 at 6:41 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Whateverist - December 19, 2013 at 7:03 am
RE: Gay marriage - by JohnCrichton72 - December 19, 2013 at 7:34 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Esquilax - December 19, 2013 at 8:09 am
RE: Gay marriage - by max-greece - December 19, 2013 at 9:19 am
RE: Gay marriage - by KichigaiNeko - December 19, 2013 at 7:07 am
RE: Gay marriage - by KichigaiNeko - December 19, 2013 at 7:38 am
RE: Gay marriage - by LastPoet - December 19, 2013 at 9:01 am
RE: Gay marriage - by KichigaiNeko - December 19, 2013 at 9:22 am
RE: Gay marriage - by max-greece - December 19, 2013 at 10:59 am
RE: Gay marriage - by LastPoet - December 19, 2013 at 10:42 am
Re: RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - December 19, 2013 at 11:44 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Blake the Heretic - December 21, 2013 at 4:45 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Belac Enrobso - January 3, 2014 at 11:47 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 3, 2014 at 11:55 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: Gay marriage - by FlyingNarwhal - January 4, 2014 at 3:46 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 4, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 4, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 4, 2014 at 4:26 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Chas - January 4, 2014 at 5:37 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 4, 2014 at 12:04 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Belac Enrobso - January 4, 2014 at 3:10 am
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 4, 2014 at 3:33 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Belac Enrobso - January 4, 2014 at 3:37 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - January 4, 2014 at 4:26 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 4, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 4, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - January 4, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 4, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - January 4, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Rahul - January 4, 2014 at 3:35 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 4, 2014 at 10:41 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 4, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 4:42 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 4, 2014 at 4:52 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 5:17 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by EgoRaptor - January 4, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 5:32 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 4, 2014 at 11:49 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 5, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 5, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 5, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Lek - January 5, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 11:53 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 4, 2014 at 11:55 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Bad Writer - January 4, 2014 at 11:56 pm
Re: RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - January 5, 2014 at 7:12 am
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 5, 2014 at 11:24 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - January 5, 2014 at 8:51 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Chas - January 5, 2014 at 9:39 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - January 5, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by là bạn điên - January 6, 2014 at 7:25 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Aractus - January 7, 2014 at 3:51 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Chas - January 6, 2014 at 8:38 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Esquilax - January 6, 2014 at 12:38 am
RE: Gay marriage - by FlyingNarwhal - January 5, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 5, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by FlyingNarwhal - January 5, 2014 at 1:25 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Minimalist - January 5, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 5, 2014 at 7:49 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by faithinwhat - January 5, 2014 at 9:31 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by NoraBrimstone - January 5, 2014 at 11:59 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 6, 2014 at 12:22 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Zen Badger - January 7, 2014 at 5:47 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Belac Enrobso - January 6, 2014 at 1:42 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Zen Badger - January 6, 2014 at 4:56 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 6, 2014 at 10:10 am
RE: Gay marriage - by pineapplebunnybounce - January 6, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Belac Enrobso - January 6, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Ryantology - January 7, 2014 at 5:29 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Esquilax - January 7, 2014 at 5:45 am
RE: Gay marriage - by Minimalist - January 23, 2014 at 1:22 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by SteelCurtain - January 23, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by Darkstar - January 23, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Gay marriage - by rexbeccarox - January 23, 2014 at 4:40 pm

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