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The fossil record is the claim not the evidence
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RE: The fossil record is the claim not the evidence
(January 8, 2014 at 12:28 am)rasetsu Wrote:


While I'm reluctant to defend Chad, there is a charitable interpretation that can be made. The fossil record itself doesn't support any specific theory without being interpreted to support a specific theory, taking into account any relevant auxiliary hypotheses needed to form that interpretation (such as the interpretation of dating methods and of the meaning of the geological column). The more defensible statement, interpreting him charitably, is saying that the fossil evidence is not in itself evidence that interpreting it to support evolution is correct; that the fossil record supports the evolutionary hypothesis is a claim, and one which requires additional support for it to be robust (from physics, from molecular biology, from dating of the geological column, and so forth). The fossil record by itself is a piece of evidence, but by itself, on the whole, it is not overly persuasive if considered independent of the other evidences. It is the mutual reinforcement of multiple lines of evidence which is what makes evolution a robust theory. If argued on the basis of fossils alone, it's hardly conclusive. Granted, I don't put any stock in it, but interpreting the fossil evidence alone as the result of a catastrophic flood is on much more equal footing with the evolutionary hypothesis, if, one doesn't take into account other evidences which corroborate the evolutionary hypothesis, and demote the global flood hypothesis.

So, perhaps Chad did mean it in an indefensible sense. However, I'm inclined to suspect that he was aiming for a parallel slogan similar to the "bible is the claim, not the evidence" slogan that is currently alive on the forum. I'm willing to accept he meant the more defensible statement above, and ended up trying to be too clever by half.



You are being too charitable. There is another feature played out in the fossil record that was predicted by evolution before it was truly discovered. The simpler organisms procede the more complex ones. Obviously there are reversion's and simple organism that survive very well, such as horseshoe crabs, but this is the order in the sediments (you do not need to even under stand the geologic colomn or its age to understand that bottom sediments are older.)
Invertabates
Fish
Amphibians
Reptiles
Mammals.

When a theory predicts the behavior of a natural phenomenon, that phenomenon is evidence for that theory. Much like the law of attraction is phenomenon that is predicted by the theory of gravity by newton.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: The fossil record is the claim not the evidence - by Lemonvariable72 - January 8, 2014 at 12:48 am

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