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The dangers of faith
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RE: The dangers of faith
(January 8, 2014 at 2:35 am)rasetsu Wrote: [quote='Godschild' pid='577950' dateline='1389074540']

Please show me when I've done what you have accused me of doing, you're the prosecutor so bring your proof.

You are trying to put a baited question in my mouth and then expect me to answer it, you're stupider than I thought.(color and emphasis added)

Those who are tripping like colors.



Ask and you shall receive:
(July 29, 2013 at 5:15 pm)Godschild Wrote: The book of Mormon was written by a conman, well know for his dishonesty. There is no historical records to back up any of the book. It is also called an addition to the Bible, the Bible states there shall be no additions. It also is in conflict with the Bible. (emphasis mine)

You call that evidence for your case, seems the truth of what I stated goes in my favor. You need to prove what I said above is wrong, just presenting it means nothing for your case.

rasetsu Wrote:This turns out to be your interpretation of a passage in John which exegesis shows to be an incorrect interpretation. (see below)

What verse, here we go again with you throwing out an idea without a reference, John wrote five books you know.


(July 30, 2013 at 2:01 pm)rasetsu Wrote: Anyway, this is rather moot, anyway, because the author of Revelations didn't specifically refer to "the bible," as the bible did not exist at that time.


What does that have to do with things I've said, I mean really, are you serious. You think I did not know that Revelations was written before the Bible was put together in it's modern day form, get real. It was Jesus who said the word of God could not be changed, so when a man writes something he pulled out of his self serving and delusional mind it's not God's word and is not to be taken as such. Luke21:33 and Mark 13:31Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away. Matthew 5:18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. The Book of Mormon takes away from the law, that's what this deluded man intended.

rasetsu Wrote:I must confess to being ignorant of Koine Greek, but even though it's not clear what the author is referring to in the text, because the bible didn't exist at the time Revelations was written, he most likely is referring to something else. (And no, it doesn't matter if God is the author of those words; the reference is still uncertain.)

Certainly it matters, God inspired the words of the Bible, don't you think He being omniscient would know what books would make up the Bible. You're barking up the wrong tree (passage), Jesus words from the Gospels satisfies my statement.


rasetsu Wrote:The word in the interlinear bible I'm looking at is βιβλίου, bibliou, and appears to be singular, likely referring to the book of Revelation itself. Maybe you or Drich can weigh in and explain the finer points of Koine Greek to those of us like myself who are ignorant of such things.(color and emphasis added)

I'll leave that one to Drich, I do not have a Greek reference with me. Well I do have an old Vines here and Biblion is singular but could refer to an entire book such as the Bible. Maybe Drich will help out .


rasetsu Wrote:Your move, ex-lax.



I believe I've stated my case sufficiently.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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The dangers of faith - by Jacob(smooth) - January 5, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by pocaracas - January 5, 2014 at 8:33 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Angrboda - January 6, 2014 at 2:40 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Bob Kelso - January 6, 2014 at 2:51 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Jackalope - January 6, 2014 at 3:29 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Jacob(smooth) - January 6, 2014 at 5:06 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Esquilax - January 6, 2014 at 6:51 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Ben Davis - January 6, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by pocaracas - January 6, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Jacob(smooth) - January 6, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Jackalope - January 7, 2014 at 2:14 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Godschild - January 6, 2014 at 5:46 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Angrboda - January 6, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Jacob(smooth) - January 6, 2014 at 5:52 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Bob Kelso - January 6, 2014 at 6:13 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Godschild - January 7, 2014 at 2:02 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Esquilax - January 7, 2014 at 2:33 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Angrboda - January 8, 2014 at 2:35 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Godschild - January 8, 2014 at 4:56 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Fenix - January 8, 2014 at 5:10 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Angrboda - January 8, 2014 at 8:44 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Godschild - January 8, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Angrboda - January 8, 2014 at 6:12 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Godschild - January 9, 2014 at 5:33 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Angrboda - January 9, 2014 at 5:37 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Godschild - January 11, 2014 at 1:21 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Jacob(smooth) - January 8, 2014 at 5:06 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Esquilax - January 8, 2014 at 5:41 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Godschild - January 8, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Jacob(smooth) - January 8, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Godschild - January 8, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Jacob(smooth) - January 8, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Neo-Scholastic - January 6, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by MindForgedManacle - January 6, 2014 at 11:32 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Chas - January 6, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Minimalist - January 6, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Cyberman - January 6, 2014 at 5:15 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Belac Enrobso - January 6, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by houseofcantor - January 6, 2014 at 4:15 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Mr Greene - January 6, 2014 at 4:54 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Aractus - January 9, 2014 at 3:09 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Jacob(smooth) - January 9, 2014 at 3:19 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Esquilax - January 9, 2014 at 3:38 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Bad Writer - January 9, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Bad Writer - January 8, 2014 at 2:55 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Belac Enrobso - January 8, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Belac Enrobso - January 8, 2014 at 3:45 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by Ksa - January 8, 2014 at 5:57 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by ShaMan - January 8, 2014 at 6:00 pm
RE: The dangers of faith - by MindForgedManacle - January 9, 2014 at 3:21 am
RE: The dangers of faith - by Bad Writer - January 9, 2014 at 6:24 pm

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