Gentlemen please. We're going far afield and turning this into straight out abuse. I don't think Lek is trolling in the least.
Hi Lek.
If I may. I'm coming at this from a (broadly) Christian perspective and I still have a problem with it. Perhaps you can help me.
1. An offense against God is more serious than one against people is a concept I understand. However I see little consistency. Many of God's prophets were abused and attacked (as you said) but only occasionally is retribution forthcoming. Why was a bit of mockery of the prophets baldness deserving of such punishment. Bear in in mind that if they'd just seen him walking up the road then they had no way to know that he even was a prophet.
2. The God I know, from the NT is as you say a merciful God. Do you have any trouble reconciling the God who deals so fairly with the woman at the well and who asks God to forgive the soldiers who nailed the son of God himself to a cross, with the one who kills 42 youths for making a crack about somebody being bald. Does it seem consistent to you?
(January 11, 2014 at 10:55 pm)Lek Wrote:(January 11, 2014 at 10:42 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Why is your god so bloodthirsty that he demands a blood sacrifice as atonement? Is he powerless to make it otherwise?
Bloodthirsty? I don't know the mind of God, but when Adam sinned, and we also sin, the penalty of that sin is death. Before Adam sinned he wasn't subject to death. An offense against God is more serious than a sin against a person. That's why Jesus' sacrifice was so significant. He made the ultimate sacrifice for everyone who has or will live. He didn't have to. It was his choice.
Hi Lek.
If I may. I'm coming at this from a (broadly) Christian perspective and I still have a problem with it. Perhaps you can help me.
1. An offense against God is more serious than one against people is a concept I understand. However I see little consistency. Many of God's prophets were abused and attacked (as you said) but only occasionally is retribution forthcoming. Why was a bit of mockery of the prophets baldness deserving of such punishment. Bear in in mind that if they'd just seen him walking up the road then they had no way to know that he even was a prophet.
2. The God I know, from the NT is as you say a merciful God. Do you have any trouble reconciling the God who deals so fairly with the woman at the well and who asks God to forgive the soldiers who nailed the son of God himself to a cross, with the one who kills 42 youths for making a crack about somebody being bald. Does it seem consistent to you?
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken."
Sith code
