CHISTIANS PLEASE EXPLAIN

[Drich]

Omnipotence and omniscience makes necessity invalid. God can, literally, do anything he wants. If he wanted to be completely benevolent, he could be, and everything would still work precisely the way he wants it to.

What if He wanted to establish a realm that allows for happenstance/ act and consenquence play out unimpeeded, do you think He could maintain Omni benevolence without manupliating the inhabitance of that realm?

Your god has to make the conscious decision to be cruel and murderous, and the only logical explanation is a desire to see the results of such decisions.

What if He gave the inhabbitance of that realm the ablity to collectivly repersent His benevolence by giving them all of the materials needed to meet the needs of those who are in need, but rather than do that, the ones with the over abundance allowed 2/3 of the rest of the world to starve?

why?

If your god has omni-qualities, then happenstance never enters the equation. Everything, even the most unlikely events, happens strictly according to his plans.

Including happenstance if He decided to include it.

After all, "the greater good" can be accomplished by any means when an omni-being is at work. Suffering cannot, by definition, be necessary given that. It is absolutely impossible.

Again your working on the assumption that God is in control/micro manages the things of this word, when in fact we have been told the oppsite. That 'we' have been given control of this world where we promptly handed it over to sin and the master of sin. That is why we are to pray 'His will be done.' Because it is not currently being done here.

Either God is not omnipotent and omniscient, and certain events are beyond his control, or he is and he either deliberately causes death and suffering intentionally or allows it to happen through neglect. There is literally no third option. You want your cake and eat it too, but you simply cannot.

If your dad gave you a car when you were 16 and said this car is completely your responsiablity (maintainance oil gas whatever else) and you never changed the oil, a year later the motor locks up, if your dad (or whomever) gave this car to you as a way to help you learn responsiablity, would he then fix the car for you or suffer the indiginity of walking/riding the bus to work for a while (to see you make an effort,) then MAYBE fill in the gaps you couldn't cover on your own?

The Atheist position is we are to have "free will" and still be convered under God's umbrella of protection.. when in fact we sold ourselves into sin as it's slave and currently serve that master taking us far away from God's protection. This is akin to us blowing the engine in our 'car.' We now are in a state of 'riding the bus' to show whether or not we will accept responsiablity for what we have done. Those who are shown to be responsiable will live under God's grace benevolence and mercy forever, but before we get there we must show we are willing to be responsiable for our actions or inactions.
And don't bore me with Plantinga's defense. It's amateur-hour horseshit a ten year old could pick apart.
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