RE: CHRISTIANS PLEASE EXPLAIN "tower of babel"
January 13, 2014 at 6:41 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2014 at 6:45 pm by truthBtold.)
(January 13, 2014 at 5:57 pm)cato123 Wrote: truthBtold,
I think it would help if you didn't assume that all Christians believed in Biblical literalism. Most don't. It's almost as bad as a theist claiming evolution teaches that we came from monkies and then attacking the absurdity of that position.
I suggest a more nuanced approach to discussing Biblical content. At such time that someone comes swooping in as if to say "that shit's real" then have a go.
Here's an example of a more reasoned theological approach to the story:
http://catholicismpure.wordpress.com/201...-of-babel/
Notice that nobody thinks that the tower would have actually reached heaven, the sin was the fact that they thought they could. I have recently learned to ignore the supernatural elements and reexamine some Biblical accounts while asking myself, "What was the author trying to tell us about the human condition?" or "How do modern theologians interpret a story for modern consideration?".
There is certainly plenty in the Bible that can just be dismissed; however, if properly considered there is much that can be useful.
U cant dismiss stuff in the bible, ur god inspired it. Take it as a whole or nothing..Thats cherry picking
(January 13, 2014 at 6:31 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Some people, including the guy that wrote the linked article, seems to think this is about the evilness of pride. It annoys me that just about any time someone tries to do something for himself or herself, and doesn't prostrate themselves before Yahweh, it's the worst kind of sin in the world. The sin of pride. Anything less than groveling on the ground and begging someone to think for you is somehow wrong in the eyes of those who want power over you.
This passage about Babel doesn't say squat about Yahweh. It's not like they're planning to invade heaven and overthrow Yahweh. That's what he's so ticked off about. If it's not about him, it deserves destruction. If he didn't want us thinking for ourselves, he shouldn't have given us free will. or at the very least he should respect some people's choice to not follow him. Otherwise it's just a catch 22. You have a choice, but you're not allowed to use your ability to choose and be allowed happiness.
Wiegh this... believe in him or burn in hell? Thats not playing nice..