CHISTIANS PLEASE EXPLAIN

[Ryantology]

How so?

Have a 911 call ignored and then you might know.

Take a step back and look big picture for a minute. Suffering and Death are just about the worst things that can happen to us in this life, take away suffering and death and something else will take it's place as "The worst thing that can happen in this life." To which I have no doubt it would be held up is the same regaurd as suffering and death.

Is this supposed to justify your position? I mean, seriously.

How can I say this? Because if you were to take another step back you would know suffering to be a temporing/proofing process that pushes people to grow Spiritually, and it should not be avoided just because of the discomfort.

God could have found a way for people to grow "spiritually" just as effectively without suffering and death, if he was really omni-capable and not evil.

Death or rather what we have labled as death is our birth into eternity. Whether that birth id followed by a 2nd death or eternal life is I guess why those without God fear or loathe the idea of it.

Christians are no less prone to scrape and cling desperately to this life as much as everybody else. You're lying so you can justify the evil you worship.

Back to my point. Suffering and death in the grand sceme of things is really not as bad as we make it out to be. It's not the end of the world but we treat it as such, which makes me believe no matter what we put in place of suffering and death it will still be treated as an end of the world event.

Again, an omnipotent being did not have to make it that way, and could only have done so because that's how he wanted it to be. You are just as lacking in imagination as the people who invented this nonsense.

From my studies I have learned we are ALL "that way" and we/Adam elected for us to be born that way via God's provaunaunce, and He did take responsiablity. What do you think the whole Jesus dying on the cross is about?

A giant scam designed to gather followers.

If you remember creation and the Garden, you would see this is exactly what He did. So what happened? He gave control of this realm over to Adam/Man and Man handed control of himself over to Satan. Therefore Satan rules this realm via the sins man is not willing to let go of.

That's definitely not how I remember it. How I remember it is that God put Adam and Eve in a paradise and decided, for no good reason, to fuck with them, tempt them knowing they were incapable of resisting, and then punished the everloving fuck out of them.

Had God just left things be, there would have been no fall and no sin. As with everything else, it is his fault that it all happened.

If you do not like how is world operates then join the rest of us in the Prayer Jesus taught us to pray in that: "Your Kingdom Come, Your Will Be Done." In this prayer we see that God does not manage this world. The reason we are asked to pray this is to give this world back over to Him. (through the events outlined in the book of revelation)

God doesn't need an invitation, nor should he require one. He should actually live up to his 'ultimate good' status and actually do some good for a change. Preferably without us begging for it.

Maybe they repersent a truth your not wanting to see.

They don't even represent the truth of this specific situation.

But collectivly there is little we do not have control over.

Which would be useful if God didn't make us so fractious and divisive.

What car does that now? The idea of responsiablity means for us to take care of what we can and plan for unforseen happenings.

Why should we do that when we have someone to do it for us? Why should we be responsible at all? Why place that burden on us? He could have made us the people he wanted us to be without all of that.

kinda like real life eh?

A real life which was not created by an all-powerful being, yes.

we were otherwise God would not have given this world over to us.

Like with everything else God allegedly did, he could have done such a better job of it.

again God has taken responsiablity for his end through Christ. Now it is up to us to take care of our end by reaching out and accepting what has already been done for us.

All of the responsibility is God's. We are only his playthings.

What you call our 'responsibility' is nothing more than you making excuses for your god's complete lack of it. We didn't make this world. We didn't fill it with random disasters and dangers. We didn't make ourselves nor design our own traits and personalities. It cannot rationally be our collective fault that we are the way we are.

In North Korea, people starve to death and suffer random violence inflicted upon them by their Glorious Leader because they didn't love him enough?