RE: "Undefeated" Apologetic Argument
January 24, 2014 at 5:20 pm
(This post was last modified: January 24, 2014 at 5:21 pm by Neo-Scholastic.)
(January 24, 2014 at 3:30 pm)max-greece Wrote: Science: "Universe from nothing."Unless you are a panentheist like me. God makes the universe from himself.
Religion "God made the Universe from nothing."
See the similarity? The problem is not whether or not there is a God - that is irrelevant. The problem, in both cases, is the from nothing bit.
This means that either the universe can come from nothing and the argument in invalid or the universe cannot come from nothing, the argument stands, and BOTH science and religion are wrong.
(January 24, 2014 at 3:33 pm)StuW Wrote:(January 24, 2014 at 3:13 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: what gives a singularity the capacity to change?
We don't know and we may never know.
(January 24, 2014 at 3:13 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Or if the singularity embodies change what limits its creative expression to the form of this specific universe?
Physics?
"creative expression" doesn't come into it as that would imply expressive intelligence.
Physics is part of the specific form. Yours is a non answer.