(January 25, 2014 at 10:30 am)The Last Lamenter Wrote:(January 25, 2014 at 6:23 am)pocaracas Wrote: Welcome, New guy.
So much text for the same old loaded question... "Why?"
This "why?" presupposes some intelligence that thought up the Universe and then proceeded to create it.
If you want some form of honest discussion, please refrain from posing loaded questions.
If you'll pardon me, I'm new to all this and I'm still navigating what is and is not considered constructive. I wanted to know how the atheist community responded to this question, I meant no offense.
You'll have to learn to be thick skinned here. We have a daily torrent of new theist arrivals, some are polite and reasonable like you, others come to call us faggots and bags of sinful shit. As a result, some of us have a tendency to react defensively and sarcastically, but if you can 'turn the other cheek' you'll be fine
As some of the others have said, 'why' is arbitrary in a certain sense, it kinda arises from a psychological need to imprint human/intelligent agency on absolutely everything we see. Sometimes why is not the correct way to instigate a question, such as 'why is a tree?' or 'why does toast?'. As others have mentioned to, 'why' and 'how' in certain contexts are interchangeable. I'd recommend reading some Dawkins, Lawrence Krauss (who discusses T=0 a fair bit) and perhaps just glancing at any recent physics journals (or even just the news websites) to see what the latest developments are in the world of 'beginning' debates.
The nutshell of any Dawkins argument you're likely to read is that invoking god to attempt to halt the regress simply complicates matters further, because by adding such a poorly defined but supposedly ultra-powerful agent to the beginning of everything we are introduced with a shit-ton more questions. Complicated proposals need complicated details, and there's no reason to suppose that an ultra-powerful agent should be exempt from the same Darwinian principles that govern life on our planet. If you really want to save time, you could take the stance that most people of the atheist ilk take;
There are some things we can't be sure of yet, but that's what enquiry is all about. Ignorance is an absolute necessity in order for science and progress to take place, and using god of the gaps is not only lazy, but sometimes stifles further progress as well.
(June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Most Gays have a typical behavior of rejecting religions, because religions consider them as sinners (In Islam they deserve to be killed)
(June 19, 2013 at 3:23 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: I think you are too idiot to know the meaning of idiot for example you have a law to prevent boys under 16 from driving do you think that all boys under 16 are careless and cannot drive properly
