RE: Feminism is as Awful as Homophobia
January 30, 2014 at 5:18 pm
(This post was last modified: January 30, 2014 at 5:44 pm by Violet.)
Psykhronic Wrote:To Vae: As you say.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfPGEBVWeac
(January 30, 2014 at 4:59 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Sorry, I'm stoned, I meant to imply/say: I, too, like Vae, prefer the egalitarian title. I know you have not called yourself anything to this point.
I prefer nonequality, actually. Some people may deserve more, some may deserve to die... I just don't see why these understandings should hinge so critically upon irrelevant nonsense (women in 'thought stuff', men in 'emotional stuff'... black peeps vs white peeps vs asian peeps in about everything... it's just ridiculous).
Because it is so much harder to implement an effective and truly fair system of merits, and it would require an incredible amount of sweepingly radical changes to damn near everything: egalitarianism is my second choice, since it accomplishes the most of what I'd like to see (by at least partially eliminating many irrelevant metafactors)

(January 30, 2014 at 5:17 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Oh, I fully agree. Sadly, their voices are often drowned out by the girls who are, screaming at the top of their lungs that a guy at the park was gonna rape her because he looked in her general direction.
It's incredible what fear does to people.

Quote:And, I'll admit, some of that can be my fault and the fault of people outside feminism. I mean, which is going to draw more attention: Wendy Davis with a down-to-earth speech about defending womens right to choose or Anita Sarkesian telling everyone that Donkey Kong is a rape enabler. Crazy gets noticed.
Donkey Kong is a rape-enabler?


Well, I've won the weirdness title again (but who the hell is the second place? I haven't the faintest). So... I really can't disagree. I'd rather have the vote for best member, but that's not likely to happen

I'd have to make a sock if I wanted to go for that, and I'd have to just omit half of what I think... and I'd have to be here a lot... it's too much work, and for such an uncertain thing.
Quote:Also agreed. I think part of it is, whenever the victim did something that made the rape/attack/whatever more likely, you can't point any of those things out without being accused of victim blaming. Know what? When I was 8, I forgot to lock the front door one day when I left for school and then when we got home, we had been robbed. Was it victim blaming for my dad to yell at me for that? Or did I do something that legitimately made robbery more likely or easier?
It isn't blaming a victim to explain to a victim what they could have done differently that might have affected the outcome such to the point where it might not have occurred. It isn't 'the victim's fault that they didn't properly account for the infinite potential of perceivably negative actions another might be capable of... and I would consider it 'good' that the victim of a negative action understand the influence of their actions upon the world

And I would think the same if that person were congratulated on positivity that they put into the world, at least in part.
Quote:Along the same vein, if a girl goes to a party with a bunch of people she doesn't know, does a lot of drugs and drinks booze that a stranger handed her, I'm not saying she deserves rape, but she needs to be aware that she's making it easier for a rapist to rape her. It would be nice if these girls would listen whenever we point these things out but, again, we just get dismissed as rape enablers or victim blamers or something.
Yes. Of course, she's theoretically more likely to go to a party with at least a few people that she knows, and winding up as such, with a muddled recollection of the event (if she remembers).
My brother was victim of such nonsense once... it's not like it's a problem for only women.
Quote:Know what? I don't go to parties with people I don't know, I'm careful about who I make friends with, if I'm gonna drink, I'm around people I trust and I keep an eye on my drink. Know what else? I haven't been raped.
Somehow, I don't really think that going to parties with people I didn't know would be any more dangerous than going to parties with people I do know. Granted... it's more fun to drink with friends, especially if they really are trustworthy.

Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day