(January 31, 2014 at 6:27 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Guess what DeNihilists! Physical things have no meaning; they just are. Physical processes have no purpose; they just happen.
Of course meaning only comes in with agency. Things and experiences don't have meaning in themselves. They have meaning for agents.
(January 31, 2014 at 6:27 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: And since your worldview is that everything is physical, then you have nothing with which to make real intentional or teleological properties! Truly deterministic processes do not have goals, purposes, or intentions. Nor do deterministic processes have meaning or significance. They move along their inevitable and unalterable course. Since humans, according to you, are walking talking electro-chemical reactions any meaning you think your life has is an illusion. Any purpose in which you believe is a rationalization of events over which you have no real control. You’re fooling yourselves.
Nope. So far as we are aware everything arises within or amongst the physical. Smiles, ideas and gravity make themselves known to us by way of the physical. Any qualia you have ever experienced was experienced by the physical you.
The language which has arisen to describe our hopes and aspirations still apply but the teleological is supplied by our own agency, something again which is embedded in the physical.
