RE: Question for Atheists
February 1, 2014 at 2:04 am
(This post was last modified: February 1, 2014 at 2:05 am by Whateverist.)
(February 1, 2014 at 12:08 am)ChadWooters Wrote:(January 31, 2014 at 8:17 pm)whateverist Wrote: Of course meaning only comes in with agency. Things and experiences don't have meaning in themselves. They have meaning for agents.Exactly my point.
But why then should that be a problem for atheists? We believe in human agency, or at least I do. Whatever all the fuss may be about free will, if anyone can ever be said to intend anything it is people .. at least as far as any one knows for sure.
It would seem to be theists who are ill prepared to demonstrate that there is any teleology apart from the intention of persons.
(February 1, 2014 at 12:08 am)ChadWooters Wrote:(January 31, 2014 at 8:17 pm)whateverist Wrote: Any qualia you have ever experienced was experienced by the physical you.You are begging the question.
I only know you from what your physical fingers write here online. The only qualia I've ever heard you mention were reported through those fingers of yours to appear here on this screen of mine. If there is anything at all apart from these physical bodies of ours and the minds they house, there does not seem to be a single example to which you can point. So far any world unconnected to the physical world seems only to exist as the conjecture of a human mind.