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Question for Atheists
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(January 31, 2014 at 6:27 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Guess what DeNihilists! Physical things have no meaning; they just are. Physical processes have no purpose; they just happen. And since your worldview is that everything is physical, then you have nothing with which to make real intentional or teleological properties! Truly deterministic processes do not have goals, purposes, or intentions. Nor do deterministic processes have meaning or significance. They move along their inevitable and unalterable course. Since humans, according to you, are walking talking electro-chemical reactions any meaning you think your life has is an illusion. Any purpose in which you believe is a rationalization of events over which you have no real control. You’re fooling yourselves.

My question is this: let's presume you're entirely right, from top to bottom, even in the things you've assumed to be true about my position without actually knowing them; what does that matter to me?

You seem to be implying that our position is somehow pointless or negative because there's no externally granted purpose, and that the correct response for us- that we're denying in some sort of inconsistent action- is nihilism. Why is that? So things are deterministic and our purpose is ascribed by biochemical reactions within our brains: how does that alter the life that I have? How are the things I find purpose in any less valid, because they're constructed by my meat brain rather than a magic soul?

You are begging the question, by assuming that such things are pointless in order to come to the conclusion that the correct response is nihilism.
"YOU take the hard look in the mirror. You are everything that is wrong with this world. The only thing important to you, is you." - ronedee

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