RE: Question for Atheists
February 8, 2014 at 11:09 am
(This post was last modified: February 8, 2014 at 11:31 am by Chas.)
(January 31, 2014 at 6:36 am)Rayaan Wrote: I believe that everything in the universe has a single intrinsic purpose behind them, which is: to praise and glorify the Creator, and especially to remember Him. In Islam, simply the act of remembering God is considered to be an act of worship, and one of the most virtuous/rewarding types of worship.
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Yes, and the Quran says: "O mankind, it is you who stand in need of Allah, but Allah is the One Free of all wants, worthy of all praise" (35:15), which means that Allah doesn't actually "need" nor "want" any of our worship, except that it is we who are in need of Him and that he is simply worthy of worship just by being who He is.
What kind of being creates something for the purpose of being worshiped?
What a disgusting view. I'm sorry that you think of yourself in those terms, that you think so little of yourself.
(January 31, 2014 at 2:26 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Some atheists display cognitive dissonance about meaning and purpose. On the one hand they insist that the natural world has no teleological properties. Then they turn around and claim their lives can still have significance, thereby inserting teleology back into reality.
My finding a purpose does not 'insert teleology back into reality', it merely exists as thoughts in my mind.
You clearly lack the ability to find your own purposes, so you can't see how others can.
(January 31, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Rayaan Wrote:(January 31, 2014 at 6:57 am)max-greece Wrote: Rayaan,
So according to what you've just written the whole point of life is to praise and glorify the creator - who doesn't need it.
How pointless is THAT life!!!
Could you just run by me again why we need it? I seem to have missed that.
We need Him to be guided to the Straight Path (Sirat al-Mustaqeem). Otherwise we are like people who are riding on a rudderless boat with no sense of direction ...
but some people take their own desires as their god - and thereby they have strayed away from the path: "Have you seen the one who takes his own desire as his god? Then would you be responsible for him? Or do you think that most of them hear or understand? They are but as the cattle; nay, they are farther astray from the path." [Surah 25:43–44]
Oh, goody, more of your subservient, anti-human religion. Try thinking your own thoughts instead of the ravings of a schizophrenic.
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