Question for Atheists

[WesOlsen]

Orinthology , the bird science which you suggested was also developed after observing the birds closely. Aristotle in 350 BC in his Historia Animalium noted the habit of bird migration, moulting, egg laying and life spans and introduced and propagated several myths. Still , this science is poor and steadily advancing till they understand fully what the birds really say to each other. The Quran ( The Holy Book of Islam ) has mentioned that the birds praise God continually. Where has Orinthology explained this ?

You can only really discern what bird calls mean by observing what reactions they tend to ellicit. If a particular type of call causes birds to scramble in the presence of a predator, it would suggest that that particular sound means "danger". Others might correlate to the discovery of a food source etc. When some people in the desert living centuries ago said that birds call to praise god, and didn't provide any observational evidence or record any results, most Orinthologists discard these stories as what they most likely are; nonsense. If all/most bird calls can be shown to serve a more likely purpose then we can rationally discard other purposes. It's possible some calls have dual functions (to advertise sexual availability and to show-off to rival birds for example) but without any obvious link between a certain bird call and deity worship, why would any bird professional make such connections to god, especially when the physiological evidence overwhelmingly suggests that bird brains aren't even able to conceptualise such abstract notions? Bird language and thought is surely rudimentary compared to human language and thought. We can't completely rule out animal 'pondering' but when most of their behaviour shows clear links to other priorities we simply have no reason to invoke deity worship. The qu'ran is a series of claims, not evidence for the claims, and whatever the qu'ran says about animal behaviour it should ideally provide supporting evidence (maybe with sound/video recordings and stats for example) so that the stuff can be peer reviewed. Nobody studying virtually anything would even think to check what the qu'ran says, because it is dated and irrelevant, containing no useful observational or measurable evidence for anything it claims.

Adam , the first prophet was told to settle in Paradise. He had everything there. He was only told to not eat a certain apple from a tree in paradise which he did. So , he was sent to Earth to live there. The creation of that tree was definitely meant to test him to see if he could obey the orders. Then he was sent to Earth to cultivate the generation of humans , good or bad, who could be examined later and ultimately lead them to Heaven or Hell.

Well that's a lovely story, christians have the same one and use it to peddle the vile myth that sin is inherited and can pass from generation to generation. It's a crap lesson in moral virtues and provides no nods to any external evidence that any of these fictional characters ever existed. Again, why would we take ignorant stories from the desert seriously?