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Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again
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RE: Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again
I'm going to step on a few feelers here, but I don't like Rahul's method of addressing simplicity within the economics and motivations that led up to the ACW by using even more simple assertions. The cause of the ACW was a long time coming from many sources. A break down of dependence between the North and South economies made war inevitable as there was little cause to resist polarization of ideologies that precedes a severe economic fall out (and normally is one of many threats that keeps dis-Union from happening).

(February 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Rahul Wrote: How many Africans were shipped to the United States under a Confederate flag?

Irrelevant. The Battlefield flag (often ascribed to as the "Confederate Flag") has nothing to do with the economics of established businesses engaging in human trafficking.

However, the slave holding states (based mostly in the South) provided the economic demand.

Ergo, the wealthy land owners of the Confederacy by and by did purchase and fuel demand for the slave trade.

As the wealthy land owners of the Confederacy provided much financial support for the Civil War, it is fair to say that those poor Africans shipped over decades before were the property and bred into the Southern supply of Black slaves.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but not to your own facts.

Nothing of the above excuses the North in any way -- they aided and abetted such, much like both regions of the Union supported restrictive laws towards worker's rights, immigration caps and the coddling of abusive labor practices. The plight of the Irish immigrants into "wage slaves" was entirely upon the North.

Just like the institution of slavery was on the South. Southern agricultural products came into the Northern factories that relied on a form of slave labor just like Northern industrial products fed into the South to allow better exploitation of Southern slave labor.

(February 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Rahul Wrote: They were all transported on Northern ships under the flag of the United States of America among a few other countries.

Bought and paid for directly and indirectly by southern slave traders.

You seem to think you can tar the North with the same crimes -- You cannot.

The North has different smears within it.


(February 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Rahul Wrote: Oh, the Yankees profited greatly over the slave trade.

Do I have to remind you where the slaves went?

Supply and demand -- is that too hard to understand? Really?

(February 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Rahul Wrote: Did you know that in 1830 there were twice as many abolitionist groups in the Southern states than the Northern ones?

And what does that have to do with the price of Tea in China?

There was no significant momentum in the South towards abolition because their economy depended upon the institution of slavery.

Be real -- would you terminate your source of livelihood because a minority within your own lands labeled it as amoral?


(February 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Rahul Wrote: Did you know that if an African American entered the state of Illinois even in 1865 and stayed more than two weeks they would be arrested?

Did you know Jim Crow was an innovation of the South?

Like I noted with the Irish, Blacks were just as low on the totem pole of persecution by both sides.

Probably because there were many shared cultural similarities between the South and North (probably because they're in some kind of... Union?)

(February 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Rahul Wrote: Do you know what a Sun Down town is? Do you know that more were located in the Northern States than the South?

Now we're turning this into a Gish Gallop.

(February 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Rahul Wrote: Did you ever wonder why the Underground Railroad went right through the Northern States and didn't stop until it hit Canada?

Because there was no such thing like the Fugitive Slave Act, drafted and supported by mostly Southern and several Northern figures.
REF: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugitive_Slave_Act_of_1850

Might I also note that the vote tallies in support for the Fugitive Slave Law were (expectedly) of greater majority in the South than North.

(February 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Rahul Wrote: Did you know that Southern states pushed to illegalize the Atlantic slave trade before the Northern states?

Because they already had a domestic slave supply that was economically more profitable than the Atlantic Slave Trade?

Honestly Rahul, it's like you don't even know what the fuck business is.

I'll tell you -- it's a bunch of people who have constructed a system of protocols and procedures to facilitate the transfer of wealth.

Period.

Slaves or snakes, if it made money, there was bound to be people to fight for their income.

Regardless of morality.

(February 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Rahul Wrote: No, you wouldn't.

Because you got all of your history off the back of a Kellogs box.

Just like you have the nuance of a brick.

(February 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm)Rahul Wrote: But go ahead and reduce down complex historical time periods into black and white caricatures, you puny brained simpleton.

We wouldn't want you to lose that smug feeling of moral superiority would we?

I wouldn't want to live in that skull of yours.

Now about the rubes who fought in the Civil War (the ones who actually, you know, gave their lives)?

Their reasons, on either side, mostly boiled down to "Suppressing Treason" or "Fighting for independance"

Neither groups across the whole spectrum gave a rat's ass about the human beings who happened to be Black.

If anything, both saw Blacks as a form of leverage over the other side. A weapon.

That's the real cost of the Civil War:

Slaves weren't freed because slavery was immoral and wrong; Slaves were freed to stick it to the South.

I don't think the ex-slaves really cared either way -- they were free.
Slave to the Patriarchy no more
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Messages In This Thread
Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again - by Minimalist - February 14, 2014 at 11:29 am
RE: Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again - by Rahul - February 15, 2014 at 1:50 am
RE: Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again - by Tonus - February 14, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again - by Tonus - February 14, 2014 at 10:32 pm
RE: Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again - by Rahul - February 15, 2014 at 2:42 am
RE: Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again - by Cato - February 15, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again - by Rahul - February 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm
RE: Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again - by Tonus - February 15, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again - by Rahul - February 15, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: Billionaire Asshole Shoots Off His Mouth Again - by Autumnlicious - February 15, 2014 at 9:54 pm

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