RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 22, 2014 at 3:01 pm
(This post was last modified: February 22, 2014 at 3:04 pm by Whateverist.)
(February 22, 2014 at 2:08 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(February 22, 2014 at 10:01 am)whateverist Wrote: I wouldn't see God's residence within as any loss of stature. It simultaneous gives God a place in the world and reminds you that the otherness of the world is in you too.
The Christian tradition has both of course.
I like your idea. I make use more of God in everything in my awe and wouldn't like to lose that. It'd be a huge loss for me.
And if God possibly could be more, then he has to be it all to be completely God.
Your god, your call of course. But in a sense if God were only celebrated for creating the world you experience, for providing you the foundation for your conscious perspective, in a sense He has created everything and you should be duly grateful. Whatever we call it that makes what we experience possible is truly an amazing thing and it isn't anything we can directly take credit for ourselves. So much goes on below the surface to make us possible.
(February 22, 2014 at 2:57 pm)discipulus Wrote:(February 22, 2014 at 2:41 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: That it's scientifically provable
Maybe I should have made that clearer. I wonder if the two gnostics really are now! :S
Please bear with me, for I am a novice.
So essentially, empiricists hold to a proposition which states that we should only take a proposition to be true if it can be scientifically proven....
Is that correct?
I am sorry if I am being redundant, please bear with me.
That's not what I hear Frodo saying. I think he is saying that empirical evidence of gods is not possible but that it entirely okay to believe in them anyway. But he will correct that as needed.