RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 23, 2014 at 6:56 pm
(This post was last modified: February 23, 2014 at 6:58 pm by discipulus.)
(February 23, 2014 at 11:36 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Um, the vast majority of people throughout history (including you) have been atheists -- at least with respect to gods they didn't worship.
If that is how you understand the term "atheism" then more power to you. That is not how I use the term. I use the term in the sense that philosophers use it.
I want to rephrase what I wrote earlier, so that if in any way I was unclear, you will understand:
If the vast majority of people throughout history had not been theists, I would not just dismiss this fact. I would ask myself why and then set out to investigate their arguments and reasonings for their views.
(February 23, 2014 at 11:36 am)Crossless1 Wrote: No need to look far for the reasons. What are your reasons for not believing in these other gods? And don't quote your Bible. That's just a form of special pleading.
That will not be hard.
I do not believe in Allah or Zeus or any other god because I have no good reasons to believe in them.
(February 23, 2014 at 11:36 am)Crossless1 Wrote: You mean the Christian god, that "transcendent, immaterial, incorporeal being that exists beyond the scope of scientific observation and measurement," whose followers believe that he has intervened repeatedly in the material world?
Yes, that is the One.
(February 23, 2014 at 11:36 am)Crossless1 Wrote: Yes, confirmable evidence would be nice.
What is confirmable evidence? Do you have something specific in mind?
(February 23, 2014 at 11:17 am)Esquilax Wrote:(February 23, 2014 at 11:00 am)discipulus Wrote: So you are not a human.
What are you then?
None of us are human. But to express what we truly are, even through the mundane and limited expressions of written English, would cause your mind to snap, if not outright kill you. We are honest beings, but not needlessly cruel; you may keep your limited and fragile life, if some obfuscation is all that is required of us.
Suffice it to say that you have stumbled onto a collective of varied entities representing many different factions. The swirling patterns of our alliances and conflicts have little to do with Earth, though as a necessary proviso of our existence, they do protrude into your reality on occasion, as they are now.
Tremble, mortal. For you are far beyond your ken, now.
I knew it!
