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Poll: I claim...
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that God exists empirically
21.05%
4 21.05%
that I believe in God
21.05%
4 21.05%
none of the above
57.89%
11 57.89%
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Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
(February 25, 2014 at 1:28 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: Part of the problem I see in this thread is there is no attempt to divide the non-objective Truth beliefs people arrive at by faith, and objectively justified true beliefs derived empirically without faith.

They aren't interchangeable terms the religious want to believe they are.

Saying you have personal evidence for beliefs and are unwilling to disclose it doesn't qualify your personal evidence as scientific evidence, and the fact you believe it can disproven shows it definitely isn't.

Really?!

I see quite the opposite. The Christians are repeatedly stating the difference between objective and subjective truth beliefs. The nonsense that scientific objective beliefs have to be applied to subjective religious beliefs.

The religious are saying they're not interchangeable, the non religious are saying they are.

The personal evidence is freely available to all. Have you not heard of the bible?! It is actually objectively established that religious truths cannot be proven scientifically. What I can't understand is why anyone would want to keep pummeling their head into a post over that.

I'm not going to force you not to do that, but I feel I must stand up for reason and point out your folly.
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RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2014 at 3:14 pm

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