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Christians, would you kill for God?
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RE: Christians, would you kill for God?
(February 25, 2014 at 5:30 pm)orangebox21 Wrote: Tough question. The quick answer: No.
For me it's not. I would never murder someone on account of some authority's demand.

Quote:Christians do believe murder is wrong. Capitol punishment is not.
Wrong. Christians believe disobedience to God is wrong. There is nothing wrong with murder if God instructs a person to do it. And capital punishment is murder if the crime is not a capital offense. Of course, in Christianity, all sins are capital offenses and everyone is born into sin. So the very fact that you are alive means you deserve to die, according to the Bible anyway.

Quote:While Christians do believe that all people (ourselves included) believe that "the wages of sin is death," deserving the wrath of God is different than murdering someone. You are correct, there are times that God sends Isreal into war, even at times to slaughter whole peoples.
Right, when God instructs murder, the wrong thing to do, according to Christians, is to disobey God. Hence, to them, murder is not wrong. It is disobedience to God that is wrong. If God says don't murder, then murdering is wrong. If God says to murder a child, then not murdering the child is wrong. Pretty fucked up moral system, I know.

Quote:If I "thought" God was instructing me to murder I wouldn't believe it was God's instructions. "In these last days God has spoken to us through His son..." I'm not aware of any scripture in the new testament where Jesus tells his followers to kill in his name.
You would not make the list of heroes of faith then. God told Abraham to murder his son. Abraham believed it was God. His faith was credited by the author of Hebrews. Countless other examples (where the murders actually were carried out) exist in the Bible.

Quote:To be fair God didn't ask Jephthah to murder his daughter. Jephthah made a vow that he would sacrifice the first person he saw when returning from battle.
True, but God didn't stop it either. By all accounts, God rewarded Jephthah for his obedience, which was murdering his daughter on account of a vow.

Quote:Think about what it must be like for God having sacrificed His own son on our behalf. A son who went willingly to his death. Who suffered and died for our transgressions.
Nobody died for me. If they did, they were seriously misinformed of the basic logic behind any sensible justice system.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Tonus - February 25, 2014 at 5:00 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by orangebox21 - February 25, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2014 at 6:24 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by TaraJo - February 25, 2014 at 6:41 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2014 at 6:43 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by TaraJo - February 25, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2014 at 7:34 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Simon Moon - February 25, 2014 at 7:38 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Simon Moon - February 25, 2014 at 7:51 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by TaraJo - February 25, 2014 at 7:40 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Simon Moon - February 25, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Simon Moon - February 25, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2014 at 9:57 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 3:43 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Esquilax - February 26, 2014 at 3:48 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 4:31 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Esquilax - February 26, 2014 at 5:15 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 26, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by jesus_wept - February 26, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Ryantology - February 26, 2014 at 6:23 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 25, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Simon Moon - February 25, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2014 at 8:08 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 25, 2014 at 8:16 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 25, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Ryantology - February 25, 2014 at 10:37 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 25, 2014 at 7:15 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by truthBtold - February 25, 2014 at 7:40 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mr. Moncrieff - February 25, 2014 at 7:45 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 26, 2014 at 4:20 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by xpastor - February 26, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Ryantology - February 26, 2014 at 1:50 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 1:00 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Esquilax - February 27, 2014 at 12:38 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 27, 2014 at 4:10 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Esquilax - February 27, 2014 at 4:18 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by max-greece - February 26, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 4:05 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 4:09 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 4:42 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 4:55 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 5:15 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by truthBtold - February 26, 2014 at 5:41 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 26, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Ryantology - February 26, 2014 at 4:50 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by max-greece - February 26, 2014 at 5:04 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by jesus_wept - February 26, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 26, 2014 at 8:03 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 26, 2014 at 8:08 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 26, 2014 at 8:11 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 26, 2014 at 8:13 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Tonus - February 26, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Assimilate - February 27, 2014 at 12:51 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Drich - February 27, 2014 at 1:29 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Assimilate - February 27, 2014 at 2:21 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Drich - March 1, 2014 at 2:52 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by fr0d0 - February 27, 2014 at 4:21 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Esquilax - February 27, 2014 at 4:26 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Mudhammam - February 27, 2014 at 8:20 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Jacob(smooth) - February 27, 2014 at 4:29 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Esquilax - February 27, 2014 at 4:31 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by Jacob(smooth) - February 27, 2014 at 4:48 am
RE: Christians, would you kill for God? - by truthBtold - March 1, 2014 at 12:22 pm

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