RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 26, 2014 at 9:48 pm
(This post was last modified: February 26, 2014 at 9:58 pm by discipulus.)
(February 26, 2014 at 8:59 pm)whateverist Wrote:(February 26, 2014 at 7:23 pm)discipulus Wrote: No non-theist that I am aware of makes use of the reasons you mention when debating the existence of God in a formal, academic setting i.e. a university.
That's probably because I'm not arguing that God doesn't exist. I have every reason to believe He exists in your subjective experience and that of many others who make the same claim. I certainly have no evidence to say any of you are wrong. However, my best attempt at understanding this phenomenon is that the God you experience is not what you think it is. What I feel a great deal more certain of is that the bible is altogether irrelevant to the question of God's existence.
Oh ok. I understand you. Thanks for clearing it up for me.
(February 26, 2014 at 8:47 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:(February 26, 2014 at 7:23 pm)discipulus Wrote: The problem of evil argument posits that evil and suffering could not exist if God existed and possessed the attributes traditionally ascribed to him in western philosophy. One of those attributes being omnibenevolence.
The problem of evil posits that evil and suffering can only exist in a universe created by an omnipotent/omniscient god if that god either intentionally designed it that way, or if that god is neglectful. A good and attentive god with omnimax qualities (in terms of power and knowledge, not benevolence) is logically invalid if our universe is his creation.
How is it logically invalid? I think you are using the wrong word when you use "invalid". Validity speaks to an arguments form. I think you may mean to say "contradictory".