RE: Q: do you, Christian, claim that God exists, rather than you believe that he exists?
February 27, 2014 at 12:56 pm
(February 27, 2014 at 12:37 pm)discipulus Wrote: I try not to make assumptions. I do so out of respect. For in the past I have been charged on numerous occassions by atheists of making assumptions when speaking with them. So I refrain from doing so. Now you are telling me to make assumptions. Since more atheists have accused me of doing wrong when making assumptions than those that have told me I should, I refrain.
If this is a problem for you then I suggest you speak with your fellow atheists who have something against me making assumptions and come to some sort of consensus.
Until then, I will try not to assume anything.
I can see how this could be an issue for you. How about this: state your assumption, and then address the issue at hand! You are spending so much time doing this word dance, one can only assume that you have nothing to say. It is perfectly rational, for example, for you to quibble over words like "invalid" and "contradictory" to your heart's content, state that you are assuming he meant "contradictory," and then move on.
But, instead, any time there is a point you don't want to address, you quibble and hope that the thread takes another bent. It's sad, really.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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