Evidence God Exists

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One man many dead this is a horrible thing the so called official church did.I do not know if that Pope was a christian.Does history record him as saying he was a believer and if so was it recorded by a reliable historian who heard him say he was a believer.

Call me crazy, but I don't think Catholics would make somebody a Pope if they didn't believe in the religion.

Yes there are first hand accounts,the Four Gospels.You want take them seriously even though there are historians that say Lukes writings are arranged and penned as well as any famous historian.Lukes facts about other people and places have been found to be very reliable.He was criticized for a very long time about his facts however as archeologist continue to uncover this ancient world they discover what he's written to be very reliable.

WTF? The four Gospels were written 3 decades after Jesus' death. The earliest one was written in 65 AD. The ONLY one to speak of Jesus' resurrection, the Gospel of Matthew, is thought to have been written somewhere around 80 years AFTER the supposed death of Jesus. None of this was firsthand accounts, by the way. It just so happens the Gospel of Matthew is the one that is the most historically dubious and questionable.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/matthew.html

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Rebut all you like, I think differently. I can't seriously be expected to read all 60000+ posts in case there was something important I missed, can I?

That's why there's a search feature. Learn it. Use it. Love it. Be it.

Substitute religious group for Dawkins lot and they are identical, assuming the 'evidence on hand' was provided for them? Your own concerns testify to the inherent 'danger'.

Do you even know what Richard Dawkins says on the matter? I'm guessing you don't, as you think he's some kind of authority. He's a dude that wrote a book. Some of us on here don't even like his style of writing or the points that he makes. I personally disagree on many of his points. It's readily apparnt that you have absolutely no idea what a religion IS, as you're equating it to a LACK of belief in something. Do you subscribe to the religion of non-racism?

I apologise, my aim was at the atheists who have merely scorned and insulted those of faith, if this does not include you, I am sorry. Some on here seem to enjoy being rude, a little too much.

It's insulting when this question gets asked a million times, then another flash in the pan apologetic comes and asks the same question, thinking that they're daring and open minded, only to scoff at the fact that he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about. Words have meaning. You can't just call an apple a grapefruit because you feel like it and expect people to go along with you.

I consider an enlightened open mind to be a sign of intelligence, more than shouting, anyway. I was encouraged to do so myself. As a noob.

Oh, the ironing.

To you there's a big difference. To other atheists, not so.
The guy kept having to specifically exclude the basic tenet 'there is no god', from consideration as a tenet(!). And a completely loaded debate. Doesn't convince me, at all.

Because it's not a tenet. It's a lack of belief. It's not even an assertion, as most atheists are intellectually honest enough to say "I don't believe in the claim that there is a God", not "there is no God", as the mind doesn't operate in absolutes, nor can we make the claim without evidence to support it.

How is it a loaded debate when the caller asked the question? They made a stupid assertion and got it shoved back in their face. Much like what goes on in here pretty often.