RE: Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.
March 3, 2014 at 3:47 am
(This post was last modified: March 3, 2014 at 4:17 am by Mystical.)
(March 1, 2014 at 10:02 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Personally Missy, I wouldn't give a flying. Correctly, my non repentance, to the woman and/ or to a deity, should I have one, would be hindering my life/ separating me from life (God).
I'd be causing my own suffering immediately. No need to think about the theoretical after life, plenty reason to set things straight in the real world, don't you think.
I nor anyone else gets to evade justice. More so when factoring in perfect justice. I have that. You don't. It seems like you're the one with the problem. How do you cope with the injustice? It's reality. It bites. There's no logical solution... It's just not fair. Do you just have to harden yourself against it? Are you building walls?
wtf kinda answer is this?
I asked a question about if you died before repenting to your god, did you think that's hell-worthy because you hadn't repented that particular sin? I did not however, ask how you'd feel for the other people in the scenario, nor the moral implications of it.
This ties to my theory that you are wracked with guilt constantly and consistently for 'thought crimes' against your god and are programmed with an (unhealthy) incessant need to retribute for fear of going to hell unrepentant. The alternative, what you said, was that you are wiped clean immediately ( not upon death ) , therefore you don't fear hell for your constant 'sinning'. Ever said 'goddamnit' in your head and immediately asked forgiveness?
Thought crime is in itself unjust based upon how the brain is wired. Humans aren't monogamous animals (citation: history) -of course you're gonna look at your neighbors wife's ass and wish you could have that. Oops, commandment.
I need only spend five minutes with kids to get a grasp on the roots of human behavior. We want what we cant have; we touch that which we are told not to touch; we say things we dont mean, we do things against our best judgement; we have an unquenchable thirst for exploration and exposition, and the entire spectrum of emotions we have as humans is not meant to be suppressed. It can be rationalized, and if you want to rationalize it with an abject fear of eternal suffering then go for it. But don't try to drag me back into that thinking unless you can rationally explain yourself and your god first.
Evolution happened and whether it's right or wrong--our species proliferates from non monogomy. Our bodies are complex and reactive to our environments into automatic reactions at times.
You know you can be programmed to say goddamnit non consciously just by hearing it in your daily life. I don't have time atm but I will post some examples that I have seen. Of scientific conclusive studies that clearly show that your way of thinking goes against the very nature your god supposedly made you with. And lets not bore folks with another Genesis conversation, either; Eve and Adam didn't know right from wrong but were punished along with the entire human race for doing something god A. knew would happen, B. implemented a sentence to hell for C. Set up himself by giving humans curiousity then telling them not to do something.
So the question I would have is, why do you think the same god that wrote the Bible and created you as you are, is real or just?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.