RE: I'm too dumb to be an atheist
March 7, 2014 at 8:41 pm
(This post was last modified: March 7, 2014 at 8:44 pm by Whateverist.)
(March 7, 2014 at 1:45 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(March 7, 2014 at 12:48 am)whateverist Wrote: As for wondering how everything could come from nothing, I wonder if you've ever questioned what evidence you have for thinking that there was ever an absolute, total nothing before there was anything at all. Christians don't believe that. They think the means to everything was already there all along in the form of God. Physicists don't think that either. They think each successive state of the universe(s) were always preceded by the necessary pre-existing conditions. The only difference is the scientists don't begin by assuming they already know everything.
By definition everything had to originate from Nothing. The stumbling block is that it is very difficult to understand what Nothing is and what its properties are.
I guess we are at a semantic divide. Why say "nothing" if by that you actually mean something like strings, foam or God? Perhaps pure nothing has never existed. Hundreds of years ago people would have thought a jar with nothing but air in it was empty. Now we know better. Less than a hundred years ago we would have thought the vacuum of space was nothing but now we understand that space itself has structural properties which apart from anything else can generate uber-tiny phenomena which in vast quantities may do God only knows what.