Why did God murder children for making fun of a bald guy?

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The two commandments Christians are given in the New Testament are to "Love the lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength and mind," and to "Love your neighbor as yourself." These two commands are routed in reality and serve both a purpose for those who obey them and for those afffected.

There's some stuff wrong with what you just said, but I'll ignore it in favor of just completing my point: since you've just said that these moral commandments have effects in reality, and those effects must obviously be positive, then what use is god in commanding them? Surely one would be able to reason out the merit of those effects sans divine commandment, and implement them based solely on the fact that they are good for people in general?

If God's morality determines ours, then the effects could only be determined if he exists.

But you just said that god's morality doesn't determine ours, but that reality does, and that god's commandments are based on the positive effects they would have in reality.

You're not going to be able to play both sides of this game, so I'll ask you again, just to be sure: are god's commandments moral because god says them, or are they moral because of an underlying effect in reality that god has simply taken notice of and used to good effect in his commandments?

If He didn't exist then the real effects could not be felt because morality would not exist.

Except by those standards you wouldn't have morality at all, just a set of fiat declarations. If your moral standard is "whatever god commands," then you have no morality, because under that standard god could command genocide and you'd be bound to accept it as moral.

This is why I asked: where does the evolutionist get his/her standard of morality from?

Reality, as I've mentioned numerous times before. We can measure the objective effects of actions and determine their moral worth based upon their positive or negative effects on living things and the environment. Which is what you agreed to in your first statement, before you contradicted yourself.

The Biblical theist says that morality comes from God "writing his law in our hearts and minds" and that is realized through our conscience. He is the author of our morality.

Right, and is that morality based only on what god says, or is there some demonstrable positive effect of those moral commandments in the real world?

Natural selection (an abstraction) cannot be the author of morality. This would be the fallacy of reification.

Nobody is saying natural selection is the author of morality, so you're wrong to begin with, but also, your assumption that morality has to come from some physical entity is entirely unfounded. Assertions seem to be all you have, and you've contradicted yourself at least twice in your response to me.