(March 10, 2014 at 1:33 pm)orangebox21 Wrote:(March 4, 2014 at 2:40 pm)Chad32 Wrote: If you believe that Yahweh is moral just because he says he is, that's just argument from authority.True. The one case that an argument from authority would not be fallacious is if the authority appealed to is the ultimate authority. The reason an appeal to authority is normally fallacious is because men are fallible. An infallible authority wouldn't be.
(March 4, 2014 at 2:40 pm)Chad32 Wrote: The bible can't be used as evidence of anything anyway. The bible doesn't even prove that Egypt existed, much less Yahweh.If the Bible isn't the source of morality for you, then what is?
He seems pretty fallible to me. You need to prove that he exists, that he's good, that he's perfect, and that he really is all powerful before I start ignoring the things I don't like about him and worship him.
My morality comes from my life experience, and the people around me. I'm a nice person because I was raised that way, and want to be a good person. Not because I'm being bribed or threatened. I have done things that the bible doesn't approve of, and have not done things that the bible does approve of. I have never enslaved anyone, nor committed mass murder, nor raped anyone and married them afterwards, despite the bible saying it's ok in certain cases.
I have not turned myself in for murder or rape, despite those thoughts crossing my mind, because I don't believe that thinking something is the same as doing it. I also don't believe that an innocent should be killed to pay for the crimes of the guilty, whether the victims of said evil have any say in it or not. I also don't believe in eternal punishment for finite crimes.
My morality is quite different from the bible's, because I feel that the bible's morality is vastly outdated. So does the set of laws in the country I live in, despite some claims that Yahweh had any hand in them.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/
Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50
A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html