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Question for Atheists
RE: Question for Atheists
(March 12, 2014 at 9:04 pm)Lek Wrote:
(March 11, 2014 at 4:21 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: 14 pages in, and I'm still interested to know why Lek thinks science isn't a good avenue for exploring "why" the universe exists (I'm hoping this means "how"). I'd also like to know why he's uncomfortable creating his own meaning/purpose.

When I talk about "why" the universe exists, I don't mean "how". I'm talking about the reason and purpose for us and everything else. If an infinite, thinking being created everything then he would have a reason for creating the universe. Though I'm not sure of the reason, I could say that I and the universe are here because God wanted it and my purpose here is to do his will. I have trouble envisioning a universe that is just here for no reason - it just is and that's all. Some ask "if there is a God why does he allow all the suffering.?" I ask "if there is no God why are we here suffering?" I view science as a vehicle for discovering how the universe operates, but not why. Those are some of the thoughts behind my original question.

Ok we'll go with line of reasoning. Put yourself in the position of an entity that creates a universe. Why would you have done that? What exactly does the Universe actually do? What function does it fulfill?
Quote:I don't understand why you'd come to a discussion forum, and then proceed to reap from visibility any voice that disagrees with you. If you're going to do that, why not just sit in front of a mirror and pat yourself on the back continuously?
-Esquilax

Evolution - Adapt or be eaten.
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