RE: Lets compile a list of everything wrong with christ-insanity
March 15, 2014 at 2:39 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2014 at 2:45 pm by discipulus.)
(March 15, 2014 at 2:10 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(March 15, 2014 at 9:22 am)discipulus Wrote: Ideas like righteousness, repentance, worship, glory, honor, humility etc etc... leave a bitter taste in the mouth of the proud and self centered.
I should probably just ignore you since you've demonstrated your dishonest nature. This post is just another in a long line of strawmen and arrogant attributions of motivations contrived to validate your own beliefs. However, because this argument comes up so frequently, I do feel the need to address it using the oft cited three steps to being a Christian.
1. Confess you are a sinner.
I have no problem with admitting I'm a sinner, if by "sin" you mean I'm not perfect and have done things in my past I wish I could do differently.
2. Repent.
I have no problem with committing to "turn from sin", if by that you mean facing my past mistakes, learning from them and resolving to become a better person.
3. Believe Jesus sacrificed himself on the cross to be your redeemer.
And finally, there's the part about thinking the "solution" is to believe that we beat the hell out of a man 2000 years ago and executed him in a torturous manner. If I believed we appease the anger of the gods by throwing a virgin into a volcano, my beliefs would be rightly condemned as being both barbaric and absurd. But to believe roughly the same thing about a man on a cross, and I'm a brother in Christ.
You had me... you had me... you lost me.
Precisely.
It all comes down to this simple question: Who is Jesus?
How you answer that will determine your eternal destiny.
Make no mistake about it, people can choose to reject Him or accept Him. You have heard the report i.e. that you are a sinner and that your relationship with a Holy God has been broken. Reconciliation comes through faith in Christ's atoning work on the Cross.
But see, a proud person cannot come to Christ. One must be humble in approaching God, not arrogant, not proud. One must be sorrowful, one must see himself as utterly lost and without hope before he can look up to God.
The one's who are too proud are like the Pharisees. They killed Christ because they were envious of Him. They were arrogant and loved the praise of men.
How can any of you here believe when you receive glory from one another and you do not seek the glory that is from the one and only God?
(March 15, 2014 at 2:34 pm)Napoléon Wrote:(March 15, 2014 at 2:31 pm)discipulus Wrote: Your posts are all the proof I need that what I say is true. You cannot stop speaking the way you do. It is natural for you. It is "second-nature" for you to spew hate and bitterness out of your mouth because that is what is in your heart.
Every post of yours from now on, if it bears any resemblance to the one's you have already made, will serve only to verify what I am saying.
Fine. I'll ask you politely. Answer the points I've made in previous posts. Pretty please with a cherry on top.
Every post of yours from now on, if it bears any resemblance to the one's you have already made, will serve only to verify what I am saying.
You asked:
What makes you think people are automatically entitled to respect? Do christians who picket funerals have respect? Why should I respect such people.
To which I have stated:
People are entitled to respect because you would want respect. Christians who picket funerals do not have respect for the dead. You should respect such people because you would want respect.
I did not say you had to agree with their actions. I disagree with them personally. But I do not stoop so low as to be like them and mock and ridicule people and scorn and disrespect them.
I am encouraged to be the salt and light of the earth. How can I stand apart from the hate and bitterness and evil in the world if I run right along with the crowd and act as they do?