RE: Lets compile a list of everything wrong with christ-insanity
March 15, 2014 at 2:59 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2014 at 3:04 pm by discipulus.)
(March 15, 2014 at 2:53 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Why?
Because there is no other name under heaven given unto men by which a man can be saved other than the name of Jesus Christ.
(March 15, 2014 at 2:53 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Says the person who thinks he has a personal relationship with God.
You err. I do not think, I know.
(March 15, 2014 at 2:53 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Let's really take that in.
God created hundreds of billions of galaxies some 13.5 billion years ago, of which humans have only been around for about 100 K years, and you think God is aware of you, watching you and wants a personal relationship with you?
Of course.
(March 15, 2014 at 2:53 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: You are an insignificant mortal who lived on a tiny pale blue dot in the vast cosmos who may be fortunate enough to live for 100 years, a tiny fraction of the time humans have been around. You who are just one of 6 billion that are currently alive today, to say nothing of life everywhere else.
This is metaphysical naturalism in a nutshell.
(March 15, 2014 at 2:53 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Really? You're that important to command the attention of the Creator?
Yes sir!
(March 15, 2014 at 2:53 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: The Creator desires a relationship with you? The Creator wants to save you? The Creator can be made to feel jealous by you (Exodus 20:5)? The Creator loves you? Your praise can please the Creator? Your sins can make the Creator angry? The Creator is going to give you a mansion in Heaven? You're just so important to the Creator?
Yes. Why do you think any of this unreasonable?
(March 15, 2014 at 2:53 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Which one of us has a problem with pride and arrogance?
I think you do. I think you are arrogant and full of pride because you think you do not need Christ to save you from your hopeless state.
(March 15, 2014 at 2:59 pm)Napoléon Wrote:(March 15, 2014 at 2:39 pm)discipulus Wrote: People are entitled to respect because you would want respect. Christians who picket funerals do not have respect for the dead. You should respect such people because you would want respect.
Respect is given when you can demonstrate you deserve respect. It's not (for me at least) an automatic thing. That doesn't mean I go up to people and be a dick for the sake of it, but if they give me reason to then I will absolutely question them and their actions/views. Picketing a funeral is just one example of many that does not deserve respect.
Quote:I did not say you had to agree with their actions. I disagree with them personally. But I do not stoop so low as to be like them and mock and ridicule people and scorn and disrespect them.
Picketing a funeral is not the same as ridicule. What planet are you living on where picketing a funeral is the same as calling people who do so dicks. Get a clue. Seriously.
Quote:I am encouraged to be the salt and light of the earth. How can I stand apart from the hate and bitterness and evil in the world if I run right along with the crowd and act as they do?
Again, calling someone out for committing abhorrent acts is not 'stooping to their level'. It's called criticism.
Can you also answer these points that you conveniently ignored:
(March 15, 2014 at 11:16 am)Napoléon Wrote: ...
Mockery and criticism of certain actions are important and constructive in many instances. It can highlight things that are wrong with society, encourage people to speak up and speak freely.
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FYI there is a difference between mockery and hate. Criticism != hate.
Mockery is evil however you justify it. Constructive criticism is often times helpful. But you can criticize someone in a disrespectful manner which is never justifiable.
You seem to be thinking that I am saying we should always respect a person's views. I have never said that we have to always respect a person's views. What I have said is the we are to respect THE PERSON. If in the course of criticizing someone's views you stoop so low as to disrespect the PERSON, you have erred and are not acting in love.