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Question for Muslims
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RE: Question for Muslims
(March 16, 2014 at 5:02 pm)tor Wrote: Did those pagans pose threat to the muslim lives? if not then they violated then those muslims violated your principle you posted above.

Yes they did - which is recorded in history as well - and that's why the Muslims had the right to retaliate per the Quranic revelations.

In light of the context of Surah 9:05, if you read the previous and next verses, it becomes clear that the pagans were not being fought just because of rejecting Islam. The surah itself was revealed after a number of treaties over a period of years between the Quraysh and the Muslims which had been broken by the pagans of the Quraysh. In it, the Muslims are commanded to hold to their side of the treaty with those pagans who have not betrayed them for the duration of the treaty. There is then to be a grace period of 4 months (in the months of Dhul-Qa'dah, Dhul-Hijjah, Muharram and Rajab which are the sanctified months in the Islamic calendar), and only then, if there is still no sign of them stopping their treachery and persecution of Muslims, then war is declared after the grace period is over.

So the reason why Muslims fought the pagans is not because they didn't want to convert to Islam, but rather, it's only because the pagans (who were a group of people amongst the Quraysh) waged a war against Muhammad and his followers and thus broke the peace treaty as mentioned in verse 9:01 in the same chapter.
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Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 2:21 pm
RE: Question to Rayaan - by Jackalope - March 16, 2014 at 2:25 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Jackalope - March 16, 2014 at 2:53 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Lemonvariable72 - May 19, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Cyberman - May 19, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 16, 2014 at 3:01 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 16, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 16, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 16, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - May 2, 2014 at 12:36 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - May 2, 2014 at 12:48 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - May 6, 2014 at 1:23 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 19, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by rhn2704 - April 20, 2014 at 7:26 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 20, 2014 at 7:32 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Cyberman - April 21, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Fidel_Castronaut - April 21, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by MysticKnight - March 16, 2014 at 3:41 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 3:42 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by MysticKnight - March 16, 2014 at 3:50 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Chas - March 16, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 3:54 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by MysticKnight - March 16, 2014 at 4:00 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rayaan - March 16, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 16, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Minimalist - March 16, 2014 at 4:37 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rayaan - March 16, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 16, 2014 at 5:02 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rayaan - March 16, 2014 at 5:24 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Chas - March 18, 2014 at 12:48 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Minimalist - March 16, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Cyberman - March 16, 2014 at 7:28 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rayaan - March 16, 2014 at 9:35 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 17, 2014 at 4:56 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Chas - March 18, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Jacob(smooth) - March 16, 2014 at 5:07 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by MysticKnight - March 16, 2014 at 5:33 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 18, 2014 at 12:41 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Minimalist - March 18, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 2:44 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 18, 2014 at 2:47 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by OGirly - March 18, 2014 at 7:40 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Marsellus Wallace - March 18, 2014 at 8:25 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 10:00 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 18, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 10:08 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Fidel_Castronaut - March 18, 2014 at 10:02 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 18, 2014 at 10:16 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by jesus_wept - March 20, 2014 at 7:05 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 20, 2014 at 7:25 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 20, 2014 at 4:20 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by jesus_wept - March 20, 2014 at 4:53 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 20, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by jesus_wept - March 21, 2014 at 6:38 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 23, 2014 at 2:58 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 28, 2014 at 1:35 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - April 12, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Wyrd of Gawd - April 12, 2014 at 11:44 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - April 24, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 10:50 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Wyrd of Gawd - March 19, 2014 at 3:25 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 21, 2014 at 11:41 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by tor - March 18, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Khansins - March 18, 2014 at 10:40 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Chas - March 18, 2014 at 11:18 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 18, 2014 at 11:46 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Cyberman - March 20, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Cyberman - March 20, 2014 at 8:31 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Rabb Allah - March 20, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by MysticKnight - March 29, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: Question for Muslims - by Dragonetti - April 13, 2014 at 12:18 am
RE: Question for Muslims - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 6, 2014 at 1:04 am

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