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feminist culture
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RE: feminist culture
(March 16, 2014 at 7:07 pm)Beccs Wrote: I don't care what men should be concerned about.
That statement seems to contradict this one:
Quote:Everyone in the workplace and university should be treated equally, whatever their gender, beliefs, or sexual orientation.
Which is it? Do you care what men are concerned about or when you say that people should be treated "equally", are you only referring to women? There are plenty of legitimate concerns affecting both men and women in today's world; both should be listened to and cared about.

Quote:Yet to see preferential treatment in the legal system.
Really?

Which of the sexes more often than not, gets custody of the children during a divorce? Judges seem to favour mothers over fathers, often regardless of the circumstances.

When a man is caught sexually abusing someone underage, the man is thought of as a monster (rightly so) and the child as a victim (rightly so). However when a women is caught doing the exact same thing, especially if the victim is a boy, she almost always gets a lesser sentence (sometimes with no jail time) and the victim (again, especially if it is a boy) is considered "lucky" by most of society.

In fact, women tend to get much more lenient sentences than men in the first place.
Quote:Now, why should women in the work place get less pay for the same work, something that is still prevalent in many western countries.
Whilst I agree in principle that women shouldn't get less pay for the same work, there are plenty of other factors at play than it just being "the same work". Location is an obvious thing; janitors in America get paid more than janitors in India, yet they do the "same work". Experience is another; there are plenty of jobs which have people doing the same thing, only the person with more experience and more qualifications is paid more because they are worth more to the company. Due to the way our reproductive systems work, women are more likely to take time out of work than men to have and raise children, effectively meaning that their work experience is lower by the time they decide to start working again (assuming they go back into the same role).

Company loyalty is another factor. Companies tend to pay employees more when they have worked for them longer, irrespective of other factors like their position in the company or their qualifications. I work with a guy who is really clever, he's been doing my job for years and has been with the company for much longer than I have. He doesn't have a degree, whilst I have two. He earns much more than me, despite the fact that in terms of the company structure, we have the same job title and do the same job (we even have the same professional qualifications). Relating this back to women, if a women leaves work to have children, even if she comes back to the same position at the same company, men who are at her level but have worked for the company throughout her absence may have higher salaries because of this.

I'm not saying that gender gaps in wage don't exist, but for the most part, you'll find that there are circumstances not relating to gender at play rather than corporate sexism. Indeed, there are plenty of counter-examples of women earning the same amount or even higher than men doing the same work.
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feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 7:01 pm
RE: feminist culture - by The Valkyrie - March 16, 2014 at 7:07 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 7:14 pm
RE: feminist culture - by The Valkyrie - March 16, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: feminist culture - by The Valkyrie - March 16, 2014 at 7:26 pm
RE: feminist culture - by LastPoet - March 16, 2014 at 7:17 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: feminist culture - by LastPoet - March 16, 2014 at 7:25 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 7:27 pm
RE: feminist culture - by The Valkyrie - March 16, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Bittersmart - March 16, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Bittersmart - March 16, 2014 at 8:29 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 8:32 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: feminist culture - by The Valkyrie - March 16, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 7:39 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Faith No More - March 16, 2014 at 7:53 pm
RE: feminist culture - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 16, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 7:30 pm
RE: feminist culture - by LastPoet - March 16, 2014 at 7:41 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 7:41 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Tiberius - March 16, 2014 at 7:44 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Psykhronic - March 16, 2014 at 7:53 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 7:58 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Tiberius - March 16, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: feminist culture - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 16, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Tiberius - March 16, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: feminist culture - by BrokenQuill92 - March 16, 2014 at 8:04 pm
RE: feminist culture - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 16, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 8:08 pm
RE: feminist culture - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 16, 2014 at 8:11 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Psykhronic - March 16, 2014 at 8:07 pm
RE: feminist culture - by BrokenQuill92 - March 16, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Faith No More - March 16, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Psykhronic - March 16, 2014 at 8:06 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Kayenneh - March 16, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 8:24 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Bittersmart - March 16, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Bittersmart - March 16, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: feminist culture - by My imaginary friend is GOD - March 16, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Jackalope - March 16, 2014 at 8:43 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 8:47 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Jackalope - March 16, 2014 at 8:51 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Rahul - March 16, 2014 at 8:53 pm
RE: feminist culture - by NoraBrimstone - March 16, 2014 at 9:00 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 9:07 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Bittersmart - March 16, 2014 at 9:18 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 9:20 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Bittersmart - March 16, 2014 at 9:23 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 9:24 pm
RE: feminist culture - by The Valkyrie - March 16, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 9:27 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Bittersmart - March 16, 2014 at 9:28 pm
RE: feminist culture - by The Valkyrie - March 16, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 16, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: feminist culture - by bennyboy - March 17, 2014 at 12:08 am
RE: feminist culture - by Alex K - March 17, 2014 at 3:33 am
RE: feminist culture - by Esquilax - March 17, 2014 at 6:01 am
RE: feminist culture - by Alex K - March 17, 2014 at 6:04 am
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 17, 2014 at 9:20 am
RE: feminist culture - by Alex K - March 17, 2014 at 9:23 am
RE: feminist culture - by Assimilate - March 16, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: feminist culture - by The Valkyrie - March 16, 2014 at 10:30 pm
RE: feminist culture - by Assimilate - March 16, 2014 at 10:47 pm
RE: feminist culture - by *Deidre* - March 17, 2014 at 12:12 am
Re: RE: feminist culture - by NoraBrimstone - March 17, 2014 at 5:43 am
RE: feminist culture - by Psykhronic - March 17, 2014 at 9:39 am
RE: feminist culture - by Whateverist - March 17, 2014 at 10:54 am
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 17, 2014 at 11:06 am
RE: feminist culture - by Alex K - March 17, 2014 at 11:08 am
RE: feminist culture - by nintendo048 - March 17, 2014 at 11:08 am

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