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First Order Predicate Logic vs The Judeo-Christian creator
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RE: First Order Predicate Logic vs The Judeo-Christian creator
lol You're not following first order predicate logic.

yes, the sets {exists} and {no/exist} are groups, and not physical 'containers'...

BUT, everything in {exists} has one thing in common: existence...

So, if god didn't create existence, than he's kind of out of a job.

Remember that even if there is nothing (i.e. a void), the presence of 'nothing' is in itself significant in that there MUST be dimensions for this void to exist. Therefore, even a void is included in the set {exists}.

for a 'god' to be eternal, and to have no beginning or end, there must be a 'void' or SOMEPLACE for this diety to exist.

The only way around this is to say that the creator is outside of existence... which puts the architect of the cosmos in the {no/exists} set.
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RE: First Order Predicate Logic vs The Judeo-Christian creator - by pack3tg0st - April 8, 2010 at 10:19 pm

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