RE: WLC free will and omniscience
April 1, 2014 at 12:57 pm
(This post was last modified: April 1, 2014 at 1:10 pm by fr0d0.)
(April 1, 2014 at 7:50 am)tor Wrote:(April 1, 2014 at 2:27 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Two things: free will and free agency
You have no free will. You are a machine that acts as it has to act. This isn't anything to do with religion.
You are a free agent to act as your will dictates.
Of course an omniscient being knows what choices you made. That doesn't affect your choices.
You can't not do X from Gods POV, but you don't know Gods POV, so your choice isn't affected by it.
But the fact that I can't not do X means I'm not free.
Not free from Gods POV. Why are you not free from your POV? You're conflating two different perspectives making your summary fallacious.
(April 1, 2014 at 9:11 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote:(April 1, 2014 at 2:27 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Two things: free will and free agency
You have no free will. You are a machine that acts as it has to act. This isn't anything to do with religion.
You are a free agent to act as your will dictates.
Of course an omniscient being knows what choices you made. That doesn't affect your choices.
You can't not do X from Gods POV, but you don't know Gods POV, so your choice isn't affected by it.
You do realize that make you a compatibilist, right? It's fine by me, as I lean toward compatibilism myself. The problem is holding to that position creates more critical problems in your worldview. After all, under compatibilist free will, God could have determined a universe with no evil, and still preserve that compatibilist free will.
The future isn't determined, it's just known if any being has the ability to traverse time, or be omnipresent, as God does. God can still mould events to produce results. In this case, our reality is as God wills it. I have no issue with the balance of good and evil. Life wouldn't be possible without it I think.
