I really don't think anyone denies the existence of those two...
The Romans did an excellent job of documenting history as it happened... many nobels electing to hire their own personal historians to follow them around, and document their exploits...
However, the problem lies in the fact that even though all this 'documenting' was going on...
No one wrote anything about a 'jesus' figure...
(yah yah, go ahead and spew out the forged paragraphs of Josephus)
The Romans did an excellent job of documenting history as it happened... many nobels electing to hire their own personal historians to follow them around, and document their exploits...
However, the problem lies in the fact that even though all this 'documenting' was going on...
No one wrote anything about a 'jesus' figure...
(yah yah, go ahead and spew out the forged paragraphs of Josephus)