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Poll: Do you think the question "can something come from nothing" is a problem for atheism?
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The question is meaningless
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The question is meaningful, and No
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The question is meaningful, and Yes
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10 25.64%
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The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
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RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
(April 3, 2014 at 10:25 am)alpha male Wrote:
(April 3, 2014 at 10:14 am)Alex K Wrote: See my reply to Cato: the opposite of water falling down is water being thrown upwards.
Your reply to Cato appears to be a false analogy. Yes, an object can go up if a sufficient outside force is applied to it. In the ball example, there is such an outside force. In the waterfall example, there isn't.

My point: why isn't there such a force? Because it is unlikely that the molecules in the water (which possess enough energy to do so) would conspire to exert such a force. This would correspond to a significant downward fluctuation of entropy, and is therefore unlikely. That's precisely how the arrow of time arises.

Compare this to an idealized bouncing ball bouncing and bouncing up and down on a surface without friction. Look at it backwards and it will be precisely the same process, because Entropy is constant.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing? - by Alex K - April 3, 2014 at 10:27 am

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