The Historical Jesus is real and He rose from the grave

[Revelation777]

Not sure what point you are trying to make?

I'm pointing out the stark contrast between the world of the Bible and the world we live in.

Read the Babble and you read about a world drenched in the supernatural. The god of the Babble is not a subtle character in the least. In the Old Testament, he routinely interacted with the other characters, even speaking face-to-face with Moses and giving a public speech to Judea. In the New Testament, you have not just Jesus but also people of faith able to heal and cast out demons, angels breaking people out of prison and booming voices from the sky.

Put down the Babble and look around. It's a natural universe, devoid of supernatural upheaval, governed by predictable laws and best understood by science and reason. The Christian god has retreated to become a subtle observer in events, barely able to muster the power to occasionally appear on a slice of toast. Christians who believe this god intervenes in human affairs can only point to natural occurrences like hurricanes or earthquakes, where divine intervention becomes indistinguishable from unfortunate turns of well-understood forces of nature.

The contrast between the dreamscape world of your scripture and the way the universe actually operates in reality becomes especially palpable when the apologists step forward to offer their best evidence for their beliefs. William Lane Craig, Lee Strobel, Habermas, et al, have no storehouse of holy relics like the magic handkerchiefs of Paul (see the Book of Acts of the Apostles 19:11-12). They can perform no miracles of healing as repeatable demonstrations performed under medical peer review (see Mark 16:17-18). There are no angels that can be summoned to strike dead the world's tyrants (Acts 12:23), nor can your god make a speech to the public (Judges 1:1-3) or shout from the sky (Matt 3:17).

They can offer no evidence of any kind even though the Bible depicts a realm in which this kind of evidence should be expected.

Instead, the apologists are limited to the arguments that should be expected in a natural universe. They bring to the table abstract philosophy, mental constructs and verbal slight-of-hand. Entire textbooks on logical fallacies could be penned using their arguments as examples but letting that go, one can't help but notice that when the reverberations of the noise they make fade away, there is not one shred of evidence, a single repeatable demonstration or the aid of any supernatural agent to lend credence to their fanciful claims. The only magic I ever see is the razzle-dazzle of the apologist showman.

It's a natural world we live in, my friend, and if there is some sort of god out there, It clearly has no interest in being worshiped by the microscopic beings on a pale blue dot that only came into existence in the relatively recent history of the universe.

Dear Sir,
It is true that the Scripture is filled with the supernatural. Well, we have a supernatural God. He has a timeline and He is following it to the "T". He is active, He sent His prophets, then His Son, and now we are in a time of faith. He even told the Jews that they look for a sign but all He would give them is the sign of Jonah. And He delivered, He rose again. He is given mankind this season to turn to Him. And just like in the days of Noah, when the period of grace is up, you will see the supernatural. The endtimes are at hand, the prophesies are being fulfilled in our day. Israel, just like the Bible predicted has be re-est in 1948. We are heading towards a one world, one monitary system, just like the Bible predicted. The man of sin is about to come on the scene. This world will be entering in a time of trial like it has never seen before. That is why I am sounding the alarm, time is running out.

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That's a good question Stimbo. One person claimed to believe but I think he was mocking me.

April fool posts are an old tradition here. Wasn't personal.

I'm an apostate - I doubt very seriously anyone could convince me to go back.

oh i pray you do

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Once you know scientifically what DNA is there is no way your brain can swallow stories of virgin births. Once you know scientifically what rigor mortis is, there is no way you can swallow dead human flesh magically reconstituting itself.

Considering the scientific ignorance of the time it was written, one can only conclude that the bible is a book of myth reflecting the desires and fantasies of those who wrote it and wanted it to be true.

But it was never true, just like the Egyptians falsely for 3,000 years depicted their magical god/s and superstitions.

But God said what is impossible for man is possible with God. He has the power to raise us from the dead.