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Poll: Do you think the question "can something come from nothing" is a problem for atheism?
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The question is meaningless
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The question is meaningful, and No
30.77%
12 30.77%
The question is meaningful, and Yes
25.64%
10 25.64%
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The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing?
(April 11, 2014 at 6:56 pm)bennyboy Wrote:
(April 11, 2014 at 1:13 pm)Kitanetos Wrote: However, I do know that religion is an invention of man and I do know that there are no deities in existence. I do know.

Cool Shades
Gods, yes, deities, I'm not so sure. I don't think many people here identify as "gnostic atheist." I mean, what does a deity even look like?

(April 11, 2014 at 3:51 pm)alpha male Wrote: I think he's saying that the singularity existed, but that the physics concept of time did not coexist with it, hence time references to it are meaningless.
A singularity is a very strange mathematical and philosophical beast. A true Big Bang-type singularity is essentially a non-conscious deity: existent but having no beginning, not created but having all existent things arise from it etc.

If there is something intrinsic to all matter that allows for some kind of consciousness, then I'd say a singularity is dangerously close to a Deity. I don't know how you'd ever determine at what level mind is matter, or supervenes on forms of matter, or kinds of matter, or only on specific kinds of information flow, etc. This is because we only know of one form, one kind of matter, and one kind of information flow that gives consciousness-- our own.

Consciousness is not matter it's the interaction between the matter.
This website is not matter it's the magnetic field on a hard drive.
To have a hard drive you need matter but the magnetic field itself is not matter.
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RE: The following is not a question: Can something come from nothing? - by tor - April 11, 2014 at 7:40 pm

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