RE: Why It Is Not Too Late To Repent And Turn To Christ
April 13, 2014 at 3:35 pm
(This post was last modified: April 13, 2014 at 3:39 pm by Thackerie.)
(April 13, 2014 at 2:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote:(April 12, 2014 at 10:33 am)Thackerie Wrote: Fundies have to believe that Adam and Eve really were the first humans, that they really committed the "original sin" that got them kicked out of the Garden of Eden, that all subsequent humans inherited this propensity to sin, and that only Jesus can clear us of this sin trait (if only we believe, confess our sins, and repent) and thereby enable us to avoid Hell and go to Heaven.
Without the illness (original sin), there's no need for a cure (Jesus!!!!) and the whole religion falls apart.
But all have sinned. Even before we sinned, it appears that Adam and Eve were enjoying their fellowship with the Creator.
Let's get this straight, buttercup. "Sin" is defined as a transgression against divine law. You and fellow believers, going back thousands of years, have utterly failed to establish that any such thing as divine law exists. I don't believe it does.
I have never sinned -- not once, not ever -- and neither have you or anyone else.
On the other hand, people may commit crimes, misdemeanors, slights, and other bad acts. Ethical people make up for their bad acts on their own -- no imaginary deities needed; when possible, they make amends or reparation directly to the people affected by their bad acts. IMO, Christians who practice only substitutional atonement are NOT moral.